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Malajit Chandramouli moved to a Camarilla vampire

8 messages from 6 participants · 19 November 2013 – 24 December 2013 · vekn.net/forum
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makish

Hi. Could someone please clarify this? An independent vampire (say, Veejay Vinod) employs Malajit Chandramouli. Then, he's moved to a Camarilla vampire (e.g., Anneke). Malajit may tap to give +1 stealth to his new Camarilla employer? Malajit Chandramouli Retainer Requires a non-Camarilla vampire. Unique mortal with 1 life. Malajit's employer may tap him to get +1 stealth for the current action. If that action is blocked, burn Malajit.

gotcha

It is even worse in my opinion since it states "Malajit's employer" which would refer to the vampire recruiting the malajit C, right?

Klaital

Yes he can give +1 stealth to whatever minion he is on, only restriction is that he can only be played initially by a non-camarilla vampire, but any minion who he is on can use him once in play. 'employer' refers to whichever minion the retainer is on at the moment.

makish

But by 'Malajit's employer', it refers to who is employing then, not who originally employed him.

makish

I see. Thanks.

Ankha

"Malajit's employer", "Employer" and "This minion" would be synonyms here. The original employer doesn't matter. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

jamesatzephyr

> gotcha wrote: > It is even worse in my opinion since it states "Malajit's employer" which would refer to the vampire recruiting the malajit C, right? > Incorrect. [LSJ 20100512] > > LSJ wrote: > On May 11, 10:02 pm, stanles <> wrote: > > Given the wording on Robert Carter differentiating between his > > "employer" and the "vampire with this retainer" if he is moved to > > another vampire via Heidelburg Castle, does Robert Carter "remember" > > who originally took the employ retainer action, and that vampire is > > the one who has to burn the blood ... or is who ever Robert Carter is > > currently on during the untap phase the employer at that time? > The latter. > Robert Carter's card text: > > LSJ wrote: > During your untap phase, Carter's employer burns 1 blood, or Carter is burned. The vampire with this retainer gets +2 bleed. > So employer means: "the minion with this retainer". The later use of "vampire with this retainer" prevents an ally getting the +2 bleed when Robert Carter is stolen or transferred to it somehow. (Or a Kiasyd using the Grandest Trick, say.) Of course, when it got to an untap phase and Robert was still on an ally, it'd burn because the ally had no blood to burn.

Pascal Bertrand

> Klaital wrote: > Yes he can give +1 stealth to whatever minion he is on, only restriction is that he can only be played initially by a non-camarilla vampire, but any minion who he is on can use him once in play. 'employer' refers to whichever minion the retainer is on at the moment. > Correct.