I have been playing VTES since Anarch Revolt came out but new to the forums here. I have a couple of Anarch questions:
1. I have an anarch vampire successfully play Fee Stake: Boston. Is it legal for me to have said anarch vampire play another Fee Stake? Say Fee Stake: Corte? If yes, does he benefit from both titles or just one?
2. As only anarch vampire can become barons, say an anarch vampire I have plays Patsy. it reads as "Requires a baron. Only usable if you control the Edge. Choose a titled non-anarch vampire. Successful referendum means that you burn the edge to remove that vampire's title and burn 2 pool from his or her controller." Can I play a card that requires an anarch such as "No Confidence", "CrimethInc" etc? I am thinking yes as a baron is an anarch vampire.
The majority of the cards that I have are from the Anarch expansion as well as the Twilight Rebellion so I am trying to maximize their use.
Thank you in advance and if above questions have been asked before, my apologies.
found the answer to the first one.
Rulebook: "No matter what sect, a vampire cannot have more than one title. If a vampire with a title gains another, he loses the first title, even if the new title would be a demotion." So I can have my anarch vampire play another but he only gets to keep the 2nd title. *insert face-palm*
how bout the 2nd question mates? any ideas? thanks and sorry for the bother.
Doing Fee Stake, Firebrand, etc required an anarch, so Crimethink and No Confidence after such actions is appropriate.
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> nielvien wrote:
> how bout the 2nd question mates? any ideas? thanks and sorry for the bother.
>
A baron can play cards that require anarch (if he meets the other requirements of course, discipline, clans, capacity ...)
Only anarch vampires can become baron. If a baron would lose his or her anarch status, xe would no longer be a baron.
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> brandonsantacruz wrote:
> Doing Fee Stake, Firebrand, etc required an anarch, so Crimethink and No Confidence after such actions is appropriate.
>
And the obligatory rulings post by LSJ is here.
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> nielvien wrote:
> I have been playing VTES since Anarch Revolt came out but new to the forums here. I have a couple of Anarch questions:
>
> 1. I have an anarch vampire successfully play Fee Stake: Boston. Is it legal for me to have said anarch vampire play another Fee Stake? Say Fee Stake: Corte? If yes, does he benefit from both titles or just one?
>
The Baron can play another Fee Stake. He would then lose the first Baron title (burn the card), and get the second one, as quoted from the rulebook.
> nielvien wrote:
> 2. As only anarch vampire can become barons, say an anarch vampire I have plays Patsy. it reads as "Requires a baron. Only usable if you control the Edge. Choose a titled non-anarch vampire. Successful referendum means that you burn the edge to remove that vampire's title and burn 2 pool from his or her controller." Can I play a card that requires an anarch such as "No Confidence", "CrimethInc" etc? I am thinking yes as a baron is an anarch vampire.
>
Correct. [LSJ 20060603]
I'm curious, If a black hand vampire become anarch is he still considered black hand? I have a possible deck idea and might be using some black hand cards. Had a look through the rules but couldn't see anything specific, closest I got was losing titles when changing sects. Thanks in advance.
Black Hand is a trait who does not depend of the sect.
Some decks use black hand/anarch combos (I think about this : www.secretlibrary.info/index.php?deck=view&id=8766 ) . And one vampire (yazid tamari merged) is black hand,seraph, independant and anarch.
> cos wrote:
> I'm curious, If a black hand vampire become anarch is he still considered black hand? I have a possible deck idea and might be using some black hand cards. Had a look through the rules but couldn't see anything specific, closest I got was losing titles when changing sects. Thanks in advance.
>
It depends on how and why they're Black Hand.
Black Hand itself is just a trait with no special rules. A crypt-card-vampire who is also Black Hand - say, Banjoko - keeps that trait regardless of sect or clan. For example, Banjoko with a Writ of Acceptance is a Camarilla Lasombra Black Hand Seraph.
However, most of the ways of becoming Black Hand include the words "...this Sabbat vampire..." or "...the Sabbat vampire with this card..." in the card text, or something similar. For example:
Blooding
+1 stealth action. Requires a ready Sabbat vampire.
Put this card on the acting vampire and move one blood from the blood bank to this vampire. This Sabbat vampire is Black Hand. A vampire can have only one Blooding.
For example, if you use this to make Black Annis (Nosferatu Antitribu) into a Black Hand member and then make her Anarch, she'll lose the benefit of Blooding. Anarch makes her Independent, so she's no longer "This Sabbat vampire" for Blooding's card text.
However:
Trophy: Chosen
Master. Trophy.
When this card is moved to a vampire, that vampire gains 4 blood, becomes Sabbat and untaps, or that vampire can choose to burn this card instead. The vampire with this card is Black Hand. If he or she was already Black Hand when receiving this card, he or she is a Seraph.
A vampire who is Black Hand because of Trophy: Chosen can change sect and still be Black Hand, because it just says "The vampire with this card", no reference to a sect requirement.