diablerie requires a Vampire to take an action:
6.5.4. Diablerize a Vampire in Torpor
To have a vampire diablerize a vampire in torpor, announce the action and tap the acting vampire. If the action is successful, the victim is diablerized (see below). If the action is blocked, the acting vampire and the blocking minion enter combat as normal. This action has a default +1 stealth and is undirected if the acting vampire and the vampire in torpor have the same controller; otherwise it is simply a directed action. Allies cannot take this action.
and the incapacitated rules don't really apply:
5. Incapacitated
When an imbued has no life, he is placed in the incapacitated region (controlled but not ready). Effects which are not usable by an ally being burned are not usable by an imbued being incapacitated. Any minion may burn an incapacitated imbued and take his equipment as a action. If that action is successful, then each ready imbued may burn 1 conviction to inflict 1 unpreventable damage on that acting minion. An imbued may leave the incapacitated region and gain a life (not to exceed his starting life) by burning 3 conviction during his untap phase.
Note that an imbued gains a life (not to exceed his starting life) if he leaves the incapacitated region by any other effect, as well.
so can an Imbued burn a vampire in torpor as a cardless action? i don't really see it documented anywhere that they can.
> self wrote:
> so can an Imbued burn a vampire in torpor as a cardless action? i don't really see it documented anywhere that they can.
>
No.
vtes-hunter-net.tripod.com/FAQ.htm
Q) Can Imbued perform diablerie or can they burn a vamp that's in torpor?
A) No, allies cannot burn vampires in torpor (without explicit text granting the ability).
> Lönkka wrote:
> Just add Gregory Winter in the Imbued deck.
>
Or jacksn ashur and some graverobbing.....
Or you can run the sun pharoah, have him use balesful doll, and make a torpid vamp burn 3 blood.....
> thrasher80 wrote:
> the imbued player was claiming he could "encounter the vampire in torpor" and finish him off and it wasnt considered diablerie
>
"Encountering a vampire in torpor" hasn't been a defined action since - I think - Jyhad, where it was specifically restricted to vampires:
www.crystalkeep.com/tcg/vtes/rules/jyhad-rules.txt
Encounter Vampire in Torpor (no card required): Your vampire can attempt
to encounter a vampire in torpor, either your own vampire or, as a
directed action, a vampire of another player. If your vampire is
encountering a vampire in your own torpor region, this action is at +1
stealth. Allies may not perform this action.
In the present rules (and for many, many years), there are two separate actions: rescue a vampire, and diablerize a vampire.
www.vekn.net/index.php/rulebook
>
> Rulebook, wrote:
> 6.5.3. Rescue a Vampire from Torpor
>
> The cardless action costs 2 blood, which can be paid by the acting vampire or the rescued vampire, or the cost may be split between them. Allies cannot take this action.
>
> Rulebook, wrote:
> 6.5.4. Diablerize a Vampire in Torpor
>
> To have a vampire diablerize a vampire in torpor, announce the action and tap the acting vampire. If the action is successful, the victim is diablerized (see below). If the action is blocked, the acting vampire and the blocking minion enter combat as normal. This action has a default +1 stealth and is undirected if the acting vampire and the vampire in torpor have the same controller; otherwise it is simply a directed action. Allies cannot take this action.
>
> Adonai wrote:
>
> > self wrote:
> > so can an Imbued burn a vampire in torpor as a cardless action? i don't really see it documented anywhere that they can.
> >
> No.
>
> vtes-hunter-net.tripod.com/FAQ.htm
>
> Q) Can Imbued perform diablerie or can they burn a vamp that's in torpor?
>
> A) No, allies cannot burn vampires in torpor (without explicit text granting the ability).
>
Correct.