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Does Frontal Assault override action restrictions?

18 messages from 10 participants · 01 August 2013 – 07 August 2013 · vekn.net/forum
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prunesquallor

I have Frontal Assault in play : > Frontal Assault > Master. > Put this card in play. Each ready minion you control may enter combat with any minion controlled by your prey as a action. You gain 1 pool each time a ready minion controlled by your prey is burned or sent to torpor. During your influence phase, burn this card and burn 1 pool for each ready minion controlled by your prey. > Inspired by an old hypothetical decklist by Darby, I have a Hellhound (riding a Hawg, wearting a leather jacket, and wielding a combat shotgun). > Hellhound > > 2 > Ghoul with 2 life. 1 strength, 0 bleed. > The Hellhound cannot take actions. If the Hellhound has only 1 life during your untap phase, it gains 1 life from the blood bank. > Does the Frontal Assault allow the Hellhound to take an action to enter combat with one of my prey's minions? VtES store : www.prunesquallor.net Card supplies & games : stores.ebay.com/Prunesquallors-Secret-Cache

jamesatzephyr

> prunesquallor wrote: > Does the Frontal Assault allow the Hellhound to take an action to enter combat with one of my prey's minions? > No. Frontal Assault grants an action that minions can choose to take. But Hell Hound cannot take actions, so its expanded number of choices is irrelevant.

prunesquallor

Thanks much, I'll change over to having Underbridge Strays. Unlike Hellhounds, they can take actions, they provide presses for each other (so they'll probably ride sport bikes and not hawgs), and my minions pay for them not me. VtES store : www.prunesquallor.net Card supplies & games : stores.ebay.com/Prunesquallors-Secret-Cache

Ohlmann

The underbridge stray biker gang. I can't stop laughing at the idea of a dog with a shotgun.

Lönkka

> prunesquallor wrote: > I have a Hellhound (riding a Hawg, wearting a leather jacket, and wielding a combat shotgun). > RESPECT! Finnish Politics!

prunesquallor

Perhaps we could eventually get a ruling that Animal minions can't use equipment. But until then, there's the Scooby Doo Biker Gang. VtES store : www.prunesquallor.net Card supplies & games : stores.ebay.com/Prunesquallors-Secret-Cache

Ohlmann

Well, it would be a ruling on the underbridge stray. It's not like they are other animal minions. And it would not prevent him from hacking your computer, recruit human retainer, and stuff. More like he shouldn't be able to play card.

prunesquallor

Demdemeh can make animal minions with his special, and I'd imagine there are some other ways too. > Demdemeh > Capacity: 10 > Group: 4 > Laibon: If any Gehenna cards are in play during your untap phase, you may move an animal retainer on Demdemeh to your ready region as an animal ally with 1 strength and 1 bleed. While that animal has more than 2 life, he or she gets +1 strength. > VtES store : www.prunesquallor.net Card supplies & games : stores.ebay.com/Prunesquallors-Secret-Cache

jamesatzephyr

> prunesquallor wrote: > Perhaps we could eventually get a ruling that Animal minions can't use equipment. > Why only animals? Why not mindless zombies? What about incorporeal wraiths who can hardly ever appear in the material world? What about anyone who's been Disarm-ed? If you start chasing rulings for realism purposes, it never stops.

Timo

> prunesquallor wrote: > Demdemeh can make animal minions with his special, and I'd imagine there are some other ways too. > > > Demdemeh > > Capacity: 10 > > Group: 4 > > Laibon: If any Gehenna cards are in play during your untap phase, you may move an animal retainer on Demdemeh to your ready region as an animal ally with 1 strength and 1 bleed. While that animal has more than 2 life, he or she gets +1 strength. > > And then you got an elephant riding a sport bike and hacking your computer.

DeathInABottle

I once equipped Ossian with a Flak Jacket, Kevlar Vest, IR Goggles, and Light Intensifying Goggles. It was awesome.

a-e

> Timo wrote: > > > prunesquallor wrote: > > Demdemeh can make animal minions with his special, and I'd imagine there are some other ways too. > > > > > Demdemeh > > > Capacity: 10 > > > Group: 4 > > > Laibon: If any Gehenna cards are in play during your untap phase, you may move an animal retainer on Demdemeh to your ready region as an animal ally with 1 strength and 1 bleed. While that animal has more than 2 life, he or she gets +1 strength. > > > > > > > > > And then you got an elephant riding a sport bike and hacking your computer. > I have always liked Elephant Guardian driving around with Unlicensed Taxicab. Also Swarm bleeding with Camera Phone is pretty hilarious. Marko, Prince of Helsinki

Ohlmann

I tend to belive that the COmputer Hacking is the most hilarious. You could do a running gag deck where you see an elephant hacking your computer. Then a swarm of insect. Then a demon. Then a mummy. Then a shadow. Then a war ghoul (extra bonus to hack more quickly with the extra limbs). But Leatherface cannot hack your computer. He is certainly less intelligent than a war ghoul and without useable limbs like a swarm.

Timo

> DeathInABottle wrote: > I once equipped Ossian with a Flak Jacket, Kevlar Vest, IR Goggles, and Light Intensifying Goggles. It was awesome. > And then, Anson go to the ball with delilah and Entrance Ossian.

ReverendRevolver

I listed but never built an "invisable puppy dreams" deck with strays, dreamworld, and psychic veil. Add some cloak the gatherings, leverage, computer hacking, and psychic veil, and you have a theoretically amusing deck.

Boris The Blade

Then why go with Strays instead of arm dealers? They are free, and the Brujah already have presence.

Ohlmann

> Non-existant user wrote: > Then why go with Strays instead of arm dealers? They are free, and the Brujah already have presence. > He said something about getting press from them. Also they have two life, which is not much but it's alway that. Now, Arms dealer are indeed solid, if only because they are free

Pascal Bertrand

> jamesatzephyr wrote: > > > prunesquallor wrote: > > Does the Frontal Assault allow the Hellhound to take an action to enter combat with one of my prey's minions? > > > No. > > Frontal Assault grants an action that minions can choose to take. But Hell Hound cannot take actions, so its expanded number of choices is irrelevant. > Correct.