Two anarch are in combat. Can both play Hell-for-Leather, or just one of them?
Relevant card text:
"Only one Hell-for-Leather may be played at a given Discipline each combat."
Compare with:
"A vampire may play only one Taste of Vitae each round."
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
> Ashur wrote:
> Two anarch are in combat. Can both play Hell-for-Leather, or just one of them?
>
Given the precedent in card text -- such as Dia de los Muertos, Fortschritt Library, et.al., which do NOT mean "once per game per player -- I'd say that unless Pascal wishes to issue errata, it's "one per combat", as stated on the card.
Save Face also has this same wording.
Hive Mind, Recurring Contemplation, Transfusion, Twisting the Knife, and Veil the Legions -- although difficult to conceive being played by two vampires from two different players on the same turn -- would also fall under this notation.
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> Ashur wrote:
> Two anarch are in combat. Can both play Hell-for-Leather, or just one of them?
>
> Relevant card text:
> "Only one Hell-for-Leather may be played at a given Discipline each combat."
>
> Compare with:
> "A vampire may play only one Taste of Vitae each round."
>
You have a point there.
I don't think Hell-for-Leather's restriction was designed with that specific case in mind (I can't see any reason why both anarchs couldn't play Hell-for-Leather). I'd say that this is an error (not following a cardtext pattern).
But even if it's an error that may be fixed with the POD, in the meanwhile Pascal will tell us how to handle this.
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Id never noticed this before.... but then again, ive never seen 2 ansrch decks playing this card at a tournament small enough for the situation to come up.
Dang, jst when we got a rules and text update......
> Lönkka wrote:
> Wow, nice catch Ashur!
>
Yeah, it´s a rather old card, but I guess it don´t happen that often that two anarchs want to battle it out (And one of the other Stockholm players showed me actually)
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> Ashur wrote:
> Two anarch are in combat. Can both play Hell-for-Leather, or just one of them?
>
> Relevant card text:
> "Only one Hell-for-Leather may be played at a given Discipline each combat."
>
> Compare with:
> "A vampire may play only one Taste of Vitae each round."
>
Rule of thumb: Stick to (up-to-date) cardtexts and rulings.
Current status: Current cardtexts and rulings (2013-04-23) won't allow two anarchs to play Hell-for-Leather with the same discipline in a given combat.
(spoiler alert: it's likely that this card gets its cardtext updated before PoD)
> Pascal wrote:
> Current status: Current cardtexts and rulings (2013-04-23) won't allow two anarchs to play Hell-for-Leather with the same discipline in a given combat.
>
Definately by the rules but most likely not the intention of the card.
So, true to what I just wrote in another thread I'm crying wolf right now...
> Pascal wrote:
> (spoiler alert: it's likely that this card gets its cardtext updated before PoD)
>
...and because of this I'm shutting my trap right now.
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