Read the Winds!

Why is this card not more popular? It costs a blood but it it lets you not tap for blocking or lets you untap, with +1 intercept. Is it the do not replace clause? With the popularity of Eyes of Argus, i wonder why I don't see more RtW played. Read the Winds Reaction Animalism & Auspex Do not replace until after this action. +1 intercept. This vampire doesn't tap for successfully blocking this action. Only usable by a tapped vampire. This vampire untaps and attempts to block with +1 intercept, even if intercept is not yet needed.

Actually, I really don't know why. Maybe the tzim are now out of fashion ? Most people don't combine ANI and AUS to intercept because it somewhat feels redundant ? With the advent of sense the savage way, maybe players forgot how good thus card is ? Since I want to promote this card, it will be prominent in my next deck, I swear Imagination is our only weapon in the war against reality -Jules de Gaultier

Because it costs blood to get a result that can be duplicated without the blood cost. That said, I think most ani+aus deck can afford to play one or two copies. Suaku Inceptor Asian Continental Championship 興っ www.youtube.com/SuakuOz

Because Goratrix is not played nearly enough.

> Pagan wrote: > Because Goratrix is not played nearly enough. > He is. But it´s hard to win with a bearded wall, so he probably shouldn´t. "My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."

4x Goratrix ANI AUS DOM THA vic 2x Devin Bisley ANI AUS vic 1x Caliban ANI AUS VIC 1x Anton ANI AUS vic obf cel 1x Remililliard, Devout Crusader AUS pre 1x Idalia, Prophet of Guadalajara AUS dem 1x Hannigan AUS THA dom 1x Richard Tauber, Ayelea's Puppet AUS tha Reaction (41): 9x Forced Awakening 6x Sense the Savage Way 3x Eyes of Argus 3x Read the Winds 4x On the Qui Vive 4x Cats Guidance 7x Telepatic Misdirection 5x Eagle Sight Action (10): 7x Magic of the Smith 1x Army of Rats 1x Abbot 1x Rutor's Hand Ally (1): 1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter) Equipment (9): 1x Gran Madre di Dio, Italy 1x Bowl of Convergence 1x Heart of Nizchetus 1x Ivory Bow 1x Ruins of Ceoris 1x Sport Bike 1x IR Goggles 1x Flak Jacket 1x Kevlar Vest Combat (10): 8x Carrion Crows 2x Chiropteran Marauder Master (19) 2x Smiling Jack, the Anarch 2x Wash 2x Direct Intervention 7x Vessel 1x Pentex 1x Hungry Coyote 1x The Rack 1x Guardian Angel 1z Powerbase: Montreal 1x Powerbase:Barranquilla MP-ki 2013 Nowa Sól 16.03.2013 Jakub Baranowski Deck 34 players (Polish Championship). Yeah, totally hard to win with this deck. Also: 1 Jakub Baranowski (POL) -- 1 GW 5 VP -- 2 VP -- Goratrix Wall 2 Radoslaw Staszewski (POL) -- 2 GW 10 VP -- 1 VP -- Anarch Theo+Beast+Rock Cats ultra combat 2 Michal Kaszubski (POL) -- 2 GW 7 VP -- 1 VP -- Big Cap DOM / OBF powerbleed with Mind Rape, Huiamupotli or something 2 Michal Kochanowski (POL) -- 1 GW 6 VP -- 1 VP -- Lasombra g2/3 Bleed/Vote 2 Marcin Watras (POL) -- 1 GW VP 5 -- 0 VP -- Tupdog Politics Tupdog+Rock Cats with Autarkis Persecution Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.

> 9x Forced Awakening > 6x Sense the Savage Way > 3x Eyes of Argus > 3x Read the Winds > 4x On the Qui Vive > 4x Cats Guidance > Wow. Just.. wow.

At least he (nearly) always have some way to untap. Is 25 that high ? Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.

25 doesn't include the Cats' Guidances.

> Pascal wrote: > 25 doesn't include the Cats' Guidances. > Yes, it's just untap after block. I counted unconditional wakes. On the other hand he have just 16 to go with eagle's sight. I had the deck (or similar build, the same player) as a prey in one final round, and it's way less scary with it's main vampire in torpor. Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.

> Lech wrote: > I had the deck (or similar build, the same player) as a prey in one final round, and it's way less scary with it's main vampire in torpor. > Yeah, block decks are very powerful at controlling the table, especially in low combat meta, but they are always fighting against time(-outs) and tool-box, bruise&bleed or rush deck can often quite easily destroy it.

> Pagan wrote: > Because Goratrix is not played nearly enough. > This. It takes a star vampire to make more appealing than .

> Chaitan wrote: > > > Lech wrote: > > I had the deck (or similar build, the same player) as a prey in one final round, and it's way less scary with it's main vampire in torpor. > > > Yeah, block decks are very powerful at controlling the table, especially in low combat meta, but they are always fighting against time(-outs) and tool-box, bruise&bleed or rush deck can often quite easily destroy it. > Goratrix is very powerful when fighting against most frequently used combat packages (FOR sticks, CC+Aids from bats, casual .44 [even with cel],Thefts, Thrown crap potence ... even regular potence or warghouls are not that scary for goratrix - ruins of ceoris and some other perma-maneuver and it's way harder). It's good vampire with great special and good discipline set. But it's a star with nearly no way to deal with pentex contest aside. Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.

> Lech wrote: > It's good vampire with great special and good discipline set. But it's a star with nearly no way to deal with pentex contest aside. > Anarch Convert and a lot of other 1- and 2-caps (especially the ones with ) disagree with this analysis. Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas "Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War* "Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier Please visit VTESville daily! vtesville.myminicity.com/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/129744447064017

> Non-existant user wrote: > > > Pagan wrote: > > Because Goratrix is not played nearly enough. > > > This. It takes a star vampire to make more appealing than . > I'd argue that even more important than his special, as awesome as it may be, is he has.

> KevinM wrote: > > > Lech wrote: > > It's good vampire with great special and good discipline set. But it's a star with nearly no way to deal with pentex contest aside. > > > Anarch Convert and a lot of other 1- and 2-caps (especially the ones with ) disagree with this analysis. > Well, the player who played the Pentex know that they won't stealth, and they won't do anything important in the combat. So they are pretty easy to block. > Kiddo wrote: > I'd argue that even more important than his special, as awesome as it may be, is he has. > Well, mainly for Magic of the smith, and mainly because Ruin of Ceoris are awesome.

> KevinM wrote: > > > Lech wrote: > > It's good vampire with great special and good discipline set. But it's a star with nearly no way to deal with pentex contest aside. > > > Anarch Convert and a lot of other 1- and 2-caps (especially the ones with ) disagree with this analysis. > This is totally off topic but it's an interesting subject so I'm going to put it out there that 2-3 vanilla weenies do nothing against a correctly played Pentex on Goratrix. One Wake, Jake, Majesty etc. and one chump left on the defense will be able to protect the Pentex. The only viable solution besides contest is Wash/Sudden, a helpful ally or some otherwise enormous advantage.

> Kiddo wrote: > > > Non-existant user wrote: > > > > > Pagan wrote: > > > Because Goratrix is not played nearly enough. > > > > > This. It takes a star vampire to make more appealing than . > > > I'd argue that even more important than his special, as awesome as it may be, is he has. > I dunno. If I had a wall deck and a choice between infinite Thefts and infinite Magic of The Smiths I would always go for the Thefts.

> Ohlmann wrote: > > > KevinM wrote: > > > > > Lech wrote: > > > It's good vampire with great special and good discipline set. But it's a star with nearly no way to deal with pentex contest aside. > > > > > Anarch Convert and a lot of other 1- and 2-caps (especially the ones with ) disagree with this analysis. > > > Well, the player who played the Pentex know that they won't stealth, and they won't do anything important in the combat. So they are pretty easy to block. > If the guy that played the Pentex on Goratrix wants to keep all his minions untapped and not ousting his prey while I'm repeatedly taking lots and lots of actions to remove Pentex, I'm fine with that trade-off! Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas "Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War* "Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier Please visit VTESville daily! vtesville.myminicity.com/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/129744447064017

> Suoli wrote: > This is totally off topic but it's an interesting subject so I'm going to put it out there that 2-3 vanilla weenies do nothing against a correctly played Pentex on Goratrix. One Wake, Jake, Majesty etc. and one chump left on the defense will be able to protect the Pentex. > It's worked well-enough for me for years. > Suoli wrote: > The only viable solution besides contest is Wash/Sudden, a helpful ally or some otherwise enormous advantage. > This is the BEST solution, not the ONLY solution. Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas "Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War* "Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier Please visit VTESville daily! vtesville.myminicity.com/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/129744447064017

> KevinM wrote: > If the guy that played the Pentex on Goratrix wants to keep all his minions untapped and not ousting his prey while I'm repeatedly taking lots and lots of actions to remove Pentex, I'm fine with that trade-off! > Well, he often need only keep zero or one minion for that, depending on the amount of wake or majesty he have. And since your non-goratrix minion are likely to end in torpor after the first block, it can be fast. And if he is your predator, it's not like he have a hope to bleed you without the pentex anyway Don't forget that your non-goratrix minion not only are easy to block, but easy to kill too. Some star deck can have somewhat stealthy sidekick and/or that can do something in combat, the foratrix wall is not one of them. The best bet being Mirror walk, which weaken significantly against anything non-pentex.

I run 3 Read the Winds in my G2 Tzimisce deck, and they definitely help with survivability. It's a solid card, especially for a toolbox that wants to be able to move forward while still blocking low-stealth actions.

> DeathInABottle wrote: > I run 3 Read the Winds in my G2 Tzimisce deck > Ditto, I always had 2 or 3 copies, especially pre-Eyes of Argus decks. A rather useful card and I also have a fondness of cards that are supposed to be clan-based but are actually two discipline-based (like Minds of the Wild). I wish there were more cards like that...

I just don't really see the point in using that many regular wakes when he has Eyes of Argus, Read the Winds, AND Sense the Savage Way all which are better.

well, there IS a point. For instance, Read the Winds and Sense the savage way cannot be used in interaction with Eagles sight, a vital table controlling card for wall decks. Also, Read the Winds and Sense the savage way demand a block attempt, something regular wake (or superior eyes of argus) do not

You are correct but that didn't bother Gyula Erdos much. I'd also question the importance of Eagle's Sight. In my experience, when considering auspex reactions, it is lower priority than: Telepathic Misdirection Eyes of Argus Enhanced Senses My Enemy's Enemy

> Dorrinal wrote: > You are correct but that didn't bother Gyula Erdos much. > > I'd also question the importance of Eagle's Sight. In my experience, when considering auspex reactions, it is lower priority than: Telepathic Misdirection Eyes of Argus Enhanced Senses My Enemy's Enemy > yes but, those are not really blocky reactios, now, are they. 2 of those are bounce cards first, eyes of argus you will have, but more as a wake card (in my experience) then for its inferior effect, so only really intercept lending card there is Enhanced senses, right?

> Pendargon wrote: > > > Dorrinal wrote: > > You are correct but that didn't bother Gyula Erdos much. > > > > I'd also question the importance of Eagle's Sight. In my experience, when considering auspex reactions, it is lower priority than: Telepathic Misdirection Eyes of Argus Enhanced Senses My Enemy's Enemy > > > yes but, those are not really blocky reactios, now, are they. > 2 of those are bounce cards first, eyes of argus you will have, but more as a wake card (in my experience) then for its inferior effect, so only really intercept lending card there is Enhanced senses, right? > That's my point. They're more important than "blocky" reactions, and they all serve as intercept at inferior.