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FoS Aggression

12 messages from 5 participants · 06 March 2013 – 07 March 2013 · vekn.net/forum
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brandonsantacruz

This is a deck that I've played several iterations of in tournaments, but that has never won. Nevertheless, I think it is a good deck and worth publishing now that I'm retiring it. Deck Name: FoS Aggression Author: Brandon Haas Description: Bring out Amenophobis and about two smaller vampires (preferably not spending more than another 8 pool). Bleed with Eternal Mask. It doesn't really matter if opponents try to block you or not because as long as some of your actions get through successfully, whether the bleed is successful or not, you get to cycle an extra card thanks to Amenopophobis's special. Using his special it can seem like you have a lot more defense than you really do. Marked Path was a later addition to the deck, one which I think synergizes well with Amenophobis's special because it is in the same window and you can choose the order. This is as close to the final decklist as I have, I already took apart the deck. I think there might have been a Direct Intervention in there, possibly along with ~two WWEF. Wash is very useful in this deck for three reasons: 1) Cancel pool gain or combos of your prey 2) It doesn't take a full MPA 3) You don't need to have 7 cards since you hardly react The major weakness of the deck is rush combat. Intercept decks aren't too bit a deal as long as you only face one on a given table. If they have time to tool-up with the Bowl of Convergence, intercept locations, etc., then they are hard to get past. It is not uncommon to get 5 stealth on a bleed action. Anyway, try the deck for yourself if you want, see what you think. Crypt (13 cards; Capacity min=2 max=7 avg=5.31) =============================================== 1x Ahmose Chambers 3 obf ser Follower of Set:5 5x Amenophobis 7 dom pre OBF SER Follower of Set:4 1x Ankh-sen-Sutekh 6 obf PRE SER Follower of Set:4 1x Belle Equitone 2 ser Follower of Set:4 1x Halim Bey 6 obf tha DOM SER Follower of Set:4 1x Renenet 5 ser OBF PRE Follower of Set:4 1x Reverend Djoser Jones 3 pre ser Follower of Set:4 1x Sahira Siraj 4 obf ser tha Follower of Set:4 1x Zhenga 5 obf pre SER Follower of Set:4 Library (85 cards) ================== Master (16) 1x Archon Investigation 1x Barrens, The 1x Coven, The 2x Dreams of the Sphinx 1x Giant's Blood 1x Information Highway 2x Life in the City 1x Obfuscate 1x Path of Typhon, The 1x Perfectionist 4x Wash Event (1) 1x Bitter and Sweet Story, The Action (24) 20x Eternal Mask, The 4x Revelation of Ecstasy (this may have been one more than in the last tournament I played in) Action Modifier (30) 3x Cloak the Gathering 1x Elder Impersonation 3x Faceless Night 5x Lost in Crowds 3x Marked Path 8x Revelation of Desire 3x Spying Mission 2x Truth of a Thousand Lies 2x Veil the Legions Reaction (12) 6x Deflection 2x Delaying Tactics 4x On the Qui Vive Combo (2) 2x Swallowed by the Night Created with Secret Library v0.9.4a. (Mar 6, 2013 16:26:23) Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one. -Friedrich Nietzsche brandonsantacruz.blogspot.com/

Pascal Bertrand

I don't think Ahmose is that much better than Allonzo Montoya here. There's quite a lot of stealth in this deck. I also think there should be more pool <=> blood conversion (Minion Tap, Blood Doll, Villein, Vessel) Marked Path is pretty bad. I suppose that, once they've got that you're a S&B, they'll let you choke on stealth. There are two things you can do to avoid that: 1 - Add cyclers. More Dreams. 2 - Add smart-ass cards. Elder Impersonation is my favourite. Finally, 8 Revelation of Desire, and a mere 4 Revelation of Ecstasy / no Cave of Apples? I'd have more of these Truths of a Thousand Lies and 3-4 Enticement.

Suoli

> Pascal wrote: > I suppose that, once they've got that you're a S&B, they'll let you choke on stealth. > There are two things you can do to avoid that: > 1 - Add cyclers. More Dreams. > 2 - Add smart-ass cards. Elder Impersonation is my favourite. > 3 - Realize that you're playing Amenophobis in a deck with 24 Serpentis-actions . That's one extra card drawn and discarded for every stealth card in the deck, with two to spare.

Pascal Bertrand

Who said cardtext was ever useful ?

brandonsantacruz

> brandonsantacruz wrote: > Bleed with Eternal Mask. It doesn't really matter if opponents try to block you or not because as long as some of your actions get through successfully, whether the bleed is successful or not, you get to cycle an extra card thanks to Amenopophobis's special. > Amenophobis [dom][OBF][SER] Follower of Set Capacity: 7 Group: 4 Camarilla primogen: When an action requiring Serpentis [ser] is successful, you may draw a card from your library. Discard down to your hand size afterward. Amenophobis gets +1 bleed when bleeding the Methuselah who has the Edge. Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one. -Friedrich Nietzsche brandonsantacruz.blogspot.com/

Amenophobis

> brandonsantacruz wrote: > > > brandonsantacruz wrote: > > Bleed with Eternal Mask. It doesn't really matter if opponents try to block you or not because as long as some of your actions get through successfully, whether the bleed is successful or not, you get to cycle an extra card thanks to Amenopophobis's special. > > > Amenophobis > [dom][OBF][SER] > Follower of Set > Capacity: 7 > Group: 4 > Camarilla primogen: When an action requiring Serpentis [ser] is successful, you may draw a card from your library. Discard down to your hand size afterward. Amenophobis gets +1 bleed when bleeding the Methuselah who has the Edge. > Interstingly, you may also draw a card if another player's serpentis action is successful. B-) Playing with Amenophobis gives you extra style points, naturally. pckvtes.wordpress.com

Amenophobis

I always try to put Form of Corruption, Temptation and/or Edge Vitiation into my FoS decks. Form of Corruption often disrupts your prey's play - which is sometimes worth the card slot. Temptation can be used offensively or defensively on prey or predator. The targeted vampires are often seen hunting, even if not really necessary. Edge Vitation is a very cool card, totally under-estimated, which is also having a psychological effect on your predator. Though Revelations of Ecstasy are also useful for tapping nasty blockers, you might consider removing them completely. Revelations of Desire give +1 bleed on normal, that should suffice in the long run. Have you considered Crocodile Temple for extra annoyance? pckvtes.wordpress.com

Ohlmann

> Amenophobis wrote: > Temptation can be used offensively or defensively on prey or predator. The targeted vampires are often seen hunting, even if not really necessary. > And also on your own vampire, as a dirt cheap and stackable Rutor Hand.

Amenophobis

> Ohlmann wrote: > > > Amenophobis wrote: > > Temptation can be used offensively or defensively on prey or predator. The targeted vampires are often seen hunting, even if not really necessary. > > > And also on your own vampire, as a dirt cheap and stackable Rutor Hand. > Exactly! There are no downsides to using Temptations - there will always be a situation where it's useful! Vote for Temptation! pckvtes.wordpress.com

brandonsantacruz

There used to be other non-bleed actions in the deck, but I took them all out in favor of streamlining it. Every minion should bleed for 2+ at stealth each turn. In this way I've overrun Maris Streck, among other natural foes of stealth bleed. I've never used Temptation much, it seems too corner-case to me. Maybe I'll think of something I'd like to do with it. Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one. -Friedrich Nietzsche brandonsantacruz.blogspot.com/

Ohlmann

> brandonsantacruz wrote: > I've never used Temptation much, it seems too corner-case to me. Maybe I'll think of something I'd like to do with it. > The base idea is to get a temptation on one of your vampire, so on following turn he can do stealth bleed, then an Enticement. At worst, you store an action in a "calm" turn to better overwhelm your prey ; at best, you entice every turn. (or use the action for any non-bleed interesting action ; other temptation, form of corruption, torpor rescue ...) Of course, you can also use it, even cross table, when an interesting vampire is low on blood to retrieve action from it. Vessel help a lot with blood management when you tempt yourself

Amenophobis

> brandonsantacruz wrote: > There used to be other non-bleed actions in the deck, but I took them all out in favor of streamlining it. Every minion should bleed for 2+ at stealth each turn. In this way I've overrun Maris Streck, among other natural foes of stealth bleed. > > I've never used Temptation much, it seems too corner-case to me. Maybe I'll think of something I'd like to do with it. > You should try some Temptations. They are really fun to play. Regarding bleeding for 2 or more at stealth, you could try and put in the weenies with and no and use Form of the Serpent. Add more Path of Typhoon, and you should be ok. The occasional Cloak or Veil will ensure most bleeds to be successful. And that is only for the guys without . I tried such a deck with mixed results once, but our meta here in Vienna is extremely competitive, with lots of bounce and intercept... pckvtes.wordpress.com