I keep looking at Precognizant Mobility . It's not a great card, I've been trying to find a good use for it, unsuccessfully. Several decks listed on secretlibrary have one or two copies of the card.
Since there is a precedent for Auspex untapping, there is room for another. While Precognizant Mobility is arguably a bad card, it is not completely without value. Balancing a card that will not wallpaper Precog. Mobility is the goal.
"Preparations"
A vampire may only have one Preperations.
Put this card on the acting vampire and this vampire gains a blood from the blood bank. This vampire may burn this card to untap.
Put this card and a blood from this vampire on another vampire. The vampire with this card may burn this card to untap.
"Psychic Web"
2
Untap a minion and this vampire.
Usable by a tapped vampire. +1 Stealth action. Untap this vampire.
Put this card in play and move any amount of blood from the acting vampire to this card. Each minion you control may burn a blood from this card to untap after a successful action one this turn (including this action.) Burn this card at the end of the current turn.
"Astral Link"
Untap an ally or younger vampire.
Put this card on a minion you control. You may tap this vampire to untap the minion with this card or you may tap the minion with this card to untap the acting vampire. Burn this card if either minion is sent to torpor or burned.
Any other ideas? Lets hear em.
Independent Futurist. Contrarian (titled, X votes where X is the number of votes as the acting minion.) Target Vitals is always the better combat card.
Not sure theres a need for these. I think there should be a card like sense the savage way for aus, where 6+ caps use it, and i think the untap should only be against allies or younger vamps, but precog is bad so its not broken. Giving malks ways to untap for madness network stuff is always asking for trouble, as it lets a sweep be pre-determined if done right. Imagine if malks had an in clan zillahs tears. Decent would become nearly too good.
Fluff wise takine an action to make someone weary i get, and i can see a card like patronage but costing blood being acceptable for temporis, but im not sold on auspex actions that are akin to multiacting. Maybe a change of target that taps a blocker, but not an action.
And psychic web would need to cost 3-4 and be one undirected actions to not be broke. Again, see madness network. Or maryanne lawfirm. Maryanne plays web, untaps. Then 2-4 princes call krc and bleed. Thats at least 12 pool damage with just krc and governs, if they get through, which can happen with p paragon and or seduction/ bonding nonsense. Stupid good, as is.
> direwolf wrote:
> I keep looking at Precognizant Mobility . It's not a great card, I've been trying to find a good use for it, unsuccessfully. Several decks listed on secretlibrary have one or two copies of the card.
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I used it a lot in all spirit marionette decks. Pure win
Wow, Psychic Web is way too strong, even if the original action isn't on +1 stealth. The fact that it works on minions rather than vampires, the fact that even the original action isn't a wasted one and the fact that the untap is unconditional makes it way too powerful...
I mean, for example, compare it to My Kin Against the World, which untaps already tapped vampires, costs, has limitations (one per turn, younger or laibons) and has to be passed to work.
The main problem of thoses card is that Auspex does not need the boost. As far as the game stand now, auspex, animalism, and dominate (and maybe some other) should only get two kind of cards : the useless but fun one, and the one who allow very specifics new strategy.
Thoses three would only make auspex even better and clan with it even more dominant.
> Kiddo wrote:
> Wow, Psychic Web is way too strong, even if the original action isn't on +1 stealth. The fact that it works on minions rather than vampires, the fact that even the original action isn't a wasted one and the fact that the untap is unconditional makes it way too powerful...
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> I mean, for example, compare it to My Kin Against the World, which untaps already tapped vampires, costs, has limitations (one per turn, younger or laibons) and has to be passed to work.
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My kin is very balanced, it costs x, and has to be same clan or laibon in additin to younger. Ive seen it used once with arishat and the horde, and ive used it with lutz and madness network. Its rough but appropriate.
> Ohlmann wrote:
> The main problem of thoses card is that Auspex does not need the boost. As far as the game stand now, auspex, animalism, and dominate (and maybe some other) should only get two kind of cards : the useless but fun one, and the one who allow very specifics new strategy.
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> Thoses three would only make auspex even better and clan with it even more dominant.
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Imagine waht psychic web could do for necro or protean. Now those are disciplines that need such a broken boost...
> ReverendRevolver wrote:
> My kin is very balanced
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Yeah, I know, and this proposed card is superior in just about every way to MKATW, which makes that card way too powerful.
Just as a sidenote, I think the draft effect of force of will is pure genius and deserves to become a card.
Force of will
Only usable by a tapped vampire.
aus : +1 stealth action. This vampire untaps.
Would allow multi-action mechanics for vamps that lacks fortitude. Can't be abused since it's an action
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> Reyda wrote:
> Just as a sidenote, I think the draft effect of force of will is pure genius and deserves to become a card.
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I agree that the effect is cool and a lot less useful than traditional untap.
It would still be cool to not see it on auspex, but on a less-useful discipline
> Reyda wrote:
> Just as a sidenote, I think the draft effect of force of will is pure genius and deserves to become a card.
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Interesting - wasn't there a time when draft effects were bad as they allowed vampires without fortitude to untap ?
> Reyda wrote:
> Just as a sidenote, I think the draft effect of force of will is pure genius and deserves to become a card.
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> Force of will
> Only usable by a tapped vampire.
> aus : +1 stealth action. This vampire untaps.
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> Would allow multi-action mechanics for vamps that lacks fortitude. Can't be abused since it's an action
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QFT
I am not familiar with the draft text, if I were that might have informed my ideas!
EDIT: changed one of the cards above, using that text.
Independent Futurist. Contrarian (titled, X votes where X is the number of votes as the acting minion.) Target Vitals is always the better combat card.
Change of Target still makes it "broken", since it'll STILL untap you if you're blocked while playing Draft Force of Will.
> Change of Target
> Action Modifier
> Only usable when this acting minion is blocked (play before combat, if any). Untap the acting minion, do not tap the blocking minion, and end the current action (it is not successful). This minion cannot perform the same action again this turn.
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> Miasmat wrote:
> Change of Target still makes it "broken", since it'll STILL untap you if you're blocked while playing Draft Force of Will.
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> > Change of Target
> > Action Modifier
> > Only usable when this acting minion is blocked (play before combat, if any). Untap the acting minion, do not tap the blocking minion, and end the current action (it is not successful). This minion cannot perform the same action again this turn.
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I played for a very long time blessing of the name x 9, plus some x4 change of target in case i'm blocked (so i can at least untap one guy) : this function exactly the same way, and nobody ever called it broken.
@Floppy : Once a turn opens no highway to abuse-hell.
Imagination is our only weapon in the war against reality -Jules de Gaultier
> Reyda wrote:
> I played for a very long time blessing of the name x 9, plus some x4 change of target in case i'm blocked (so i can at least untap one guy) : this function exactly the same way, and nobody ever called it broken.
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> @Floppy : Once a turn opens no highway to abuse-hell.
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Sure, but Blessing of the Name means you're playing !Salubri. This proposed Auspex card means you're playing any of a bajillion vampires with Auspex.
> Miasmat wrote:
> Sure, but Blessing of the Name means you're playing !Salubri. This proposed Auspex card means you're playing any of a bajillion vampires with Auspex.
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And who can be inner circle with Dominate.
The second of your cards needs a little change. A tapped minion can't take actions, even actions to untap themselves without text allowing the action to be used by a tapped minion (See Movement of the Slow Body).
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