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Vidal Jarbeaux and "traits" / "Lilith's Blessing"

2 messages from 2 participants · 08 February 2013 · vekn.net/forum
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Hakuron

Hello, this is a "Vidal Jarbeaux" question, so maybe it has been answered before ... > Vidal Jarbeaux > > Camarilla: Vidal can meet the clan, sect, or non-infernal vampire trait (e.g., anarch) requirement to play any card. He can meet a given requirement only once each game. +1 bleed. > Since I could find nothing on "traits" in the Rulings Sections, I will take the following definition for them. > Card wrote: > Traits are basically the bold terms found at the top of card text to give it some kind of label. Some traits have rulebook-defined meaning or effect. Others do not. Clan and uniqueness are also traits. > Now my question: If "X" is a trait, is "non-X" also a trait? For example: Can Vidal benefit twice from "Lilith's Blessing"? First time being non-Bahari, second time emulating non-Bahari (being actually Bahari)? > Lilith's Blessing > > Master. > Put this card in play. As a master phase action, you may tap this card to search your library for a master: Discipline card and choose a ready non-Bahari vampire you control who has no blood. That vampire gains the Discipline card (if any) and 3 blood and becomes Bahari. > Thanks in advance! National Coordinator Germany nc [dot] germany [at] magenta [dot] de

Pascal Bertrand

> Hakuron wrote: > Hello, > > this is a "Vidal Jarbeaux" question, so maybe it has been answered before ... > > > Vidal Jarbeaux > > > > Camarilla: Vidal can meet the clan, sect, or non-infernal vampire trait (e.g., anarch) requirement to play any card. He can meet a given requirement only once each game. +1 bleed. > > > Since I could find nothing on "traits" in the Rulings Sections, I will take the following definition for them. > > > Card wrote: > > Traits are basically the bold terms found at the top of card text to give it some kind of label. Some traits have rulebook-defined meaning or effect. Others do not. Clan and uniqueness are also traits. > > > Now my question: If "X" is a trait, is "non-X" also a trait? > As far as Vidal is concerned, yes. [LSJ 20081120] > Hakuron wrote: > For example: Can Vidal benefit twice from "Lilith's Blessing"? First time being non-Bahari, second time emulating non-Bahari (being actually Bahari)? > > > Lilith's Blessing > > > > Master. > > Put this card in play. As a master phase action, you may tap this card to search your library for a master: Discipline card and choose a ready non-Bahari vampire you control who has no blood. That vampire gains the Discipline card (if any) and 3 blood and becomes Bahari. > > Lilith's Blessing has no requirement when played, so Vidal's text doesn't interact with Lilith's Blessing - Vidal can only fake a trait to have a card played, and not when it would be used. So, short answer: Vidal can get 3 blood from Lilith's Blessing only once per Vidal.