If Agaitas special has been used to draw cards from your preys library, can you bury them with the Heart? If so what happens?
> Agaitas, The Scholar of Antiquities, 6, AUS for NEC, Harbingers of Skulls, 2
> Sabbat: Whenever you play a card, you may draw its replacement from your prey's library instead of your own. Put the card drawn face-up in front of you. It is still considered to be in your hand, to be played or discarded as normal.
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> Heart of Nizchetus, Equipment, 1 pool, R
> Unique equipment. During your untap phase, if the bearer is ready, you may draw up to three cards from your library and then move the same number of cards from your hand to the bottom of your library.
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> 1.3. Golden Rule of Card Ownership
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> Your cards are never transferred to another player permanently as a result of card play. At the end of the game, the cards you began the game with are returned to you. If you are ousted before the end of the game, any of your cards that other players control remain in play until burned as normal.
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And you cannot put card taken from your prey library under your own. Two reason for that :
* only your card can go in your library
* they are considered in your hand to be played and discarded. Not to be put in your library.
> Ohlmann wrote:
> And you cannot put card taken from your prey library under your own. Two reason for that :
> * only your card can go in your library
> * they are considered in your hand to be played and discarded. Not to be put in your library.
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I know they can't go into you library, but do go to the bottom of your prey's, or his ash heap or simply cannot be affected by the Heart?
> Wedge wrote:
> I know they can't go into you library, but do go to the bottom of your prey's, or his ash heap or simply cannot be affected by the Heart?
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As I said, they are not valid target for your Heart, since it look at card in your hand for something else than playing or discarding them. Even without that, you cannot put them under your deck, so you cannot choose them.
The logic is the same as 2nd tradition vs Seduction : since you cannot do the whole package, you cannot do it at all.
Here is a link to an old ruling(clarification) regarding Agaitas and Storage Annex, which seems to imply that those cards can be affected by the Heart.
groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/aJbKbFSWsYI/Z3CthcNj_HoJ
> Wedge wrote:
> Here is a link to an old ruling(clarification) regarding Agaitas and Storage Annex, which seems to imply that those cards can be affected by the Heart.
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> groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/aJbKbFSWsYI/Z3CthcNj_HoJ
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Well,n LSJ does not explain why he have put this ruling. Without that, I won't take a guess about something as different as Heart of Niz'.
Please note that, even if they were considered in your hand for Heart matter, you would still be unable to put them under your library, so you could not choose them.
Cards that Agaitas has drawn from your prey's library act just as any other card in your hand with two notable exceptions:
1) If a card drawn with Agaitas's special would go to an ash heap, it goes to your prey's ash heap.
2) If a card drawn with Agaitas's special would go to a library, it goes to your prey's library.
Am I correct Pascal?
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> Dorrinal wrote:
> Moot. Nobody plays Harbingers of Skulls.
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Yes you do.
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> Wedge wrote:
> If Agaitas special has been used to draw cards from your preys library, can you bury them with the Heart? If so what happens?
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General Rulings wrote:
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> Cards that go into an ash heap, hand, or library always go into their owner's ash heap, hand, or library. [RTR 19970425]
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