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Infernal FoS... : Servitor of Apep

10 messages from 4 participants · 10 January 2013 · vekn.net/forum
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wesile

Apep is the demon of the Egyptians... Servitor of Apep Master - Trifle 1 Put this card on Fos in your uncontrolled region who is not infernal. While this FoS vampire is controlled, he or she is Infernal and has . This card remains in play, even the vampire is in the uncontrolled region. A minion can only have one Servitor of Apep. You can pay one additional pool to give this vampire one level of or . Image: a servant bowing to a large snake in a temple.

Ohlmann

... Except follower of set are not more prone to infernalism than other clans. I'd better a generic card for baali re-embrace.

Boris The Blade

This line is redundant and just the application of the rules: Servitor of Apep Master - Trifle 1 Put this card on Fos in your uncontrolled region who is not infernal. While this FoS vampire is controlled, he or she is Infernal and has . This card remains in play, even the vampire is in the uncontrolled region. A minion can only have one Servitor of Apep. You can pay one additional pool to give this vampire one level of or . I don't like the Uncontrolled requirement: it means you cannot get your vampires out before drawing the card. Better play it on a controlled vampire as usual. When can you pay a pool to gain or ?

wesile

> Non-existant user wrote: > This line is redundant and just the application of the rules: > > Servitor of Apep > Master - Trifle > 1 > > Put this card on Fos in your uncontrolled region who is not infernal. > While this FoS vampire is controlled, he or she is Infernal and has . This card remains in play, even the vampire is in the uncontrolled region. A minion can only have one Servitor of Apep. > > You can pay one additional pool to give this vampire one level of or . > Cadet Master. Triffle. Put this card on a Sabbat vampire in your uncontrolled region who is not Black Hand. While this Sabbat vampire is controlled, he or she is Black Hand. This card remains in play, even the vampire is in the uncontrolled region. A minion can only have one Cadet. Hum... shouldn't have burn option.

Pascal Bertrand

Can't have a burn option if you have no requirements.

Boris The Blade

Cadet is a bad card, precisely for this flow reason. Don't try to copy it. It can kind of work for Black Hand because most good Black Hand do not actually require a Black Hand vampire to play them but a Seraph to play it to benefit other Black Hand vampires, so if you fail to make your vampires Black Hand, you lose some benefits but card flow is not hurt. It's not the same in your case: if your vampire fails to become infernal, your cards will jam your hand.

wesile

Ok... so lets discard the burn option (checked the wrong item when creating this post), and lets adjust the text to the one proposed by Boris. What you think of the card? My idea is that you can make striga or maleficia a lot more playable...

Ohlmann

Well, why Follower of set only ? Any clan can be re-imbraced by Baali.

wesile

Apep relates to FoS. FoS and Baali both deal with corruption... I have thought of this card for FoS... I might have "unforeseen consequences" with other clans. But its a pertinent question... Why not rename the card to: Infernal Mark or something else and remove the clan from the card text.

Ohlmann

> wesile wrote: > FoS and Baali both deal with corruption... > Well, yes, but : * it's different corruption (in short, FoS want you to be dissolved, i.e. morally corrupt, while Baali are about spiritual corruption and especially helping them destroy the world) * FoS and Baali tend to dislike each other, partly because FoS are (supposed) corrupter and not corrupted, and partly because Set is not a demon and don't want to share his tool, and the same for demons Now, Follower of set are completely suspectible to infernal corruption. As are Tremere. > wesile wrote: > Infernal Mark or something else and remove the clan from the card text. > I approve.