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Ever saw Rebirth in play?

17 messages from 10 participants · 07 January 2013 – 08 January 2013 · vekn.net/forum
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Joscha

We had a starter + 4 boosters-Draft two weeks ago. Robert Fängler tried the Anathemastarter with mediocre success. But he played a Rebirth with Jayne Jonestown after diablerizing Francis Milliner of his Predator. Never saw that card in action before. Draft = fun! Rebirth, Action Modifier, Red List, R , [KMW] Requires a Red List minion. Only usable when a diablerie action is successful. No blood hunt may be called, and this vampire untaps. A vampire can play only one Rebirth each turn. Baron of Frankfurt

Pascal Bertrand

The Carlton threat makes diablerie quite hazardous...

Joscha

> Pascal wrote: > The Carlton threat makes diablerie quite hazardous... > Bah, play Carlton yourself first . EDIT: Or even better, diablerize with Rebirth, untap, play Carlton. Baron of Frankfurt

Pascal Bertrand

And get blocked / DI'd? Many things can go wrong. I think Lay Low is the best "diablerie card", as it keeps your vampire away from Carlton

Reyda

I played this card with once with genina and, of course B-) but with other vamps you are highly vulnerable to D.I. so it's quite risky... I think it can be cool to play it in an redlist all stars deck... And Yes, Draft = FUN because you try cards that you never had the opportunity to use before ! Imagination is our only weapon in the war against reality -Jules de Gaultier

Lönkka

Yup, drafts are great! For example, who on their right mid ever puts a Frenzy in their decks but in draft it tends to work well! Finnish Politics!

ReverendRevolver

My favorite draft moment is when i played third edition claws of the dead draft text with blaise. Ha! I can agg poke like the rest of this crypt! Ive only seen rebirth used maybe once, in casual play, and i think the player scrapped that deck quickly. Draft combos are always interesting thiugh, ive seen enky with bravo, which was rediculous mid game when blood was low and gaining it while punching for 3 was just like cheating, especially with fortitude. I also saw someone eraft a kindred spirits deck that was 12 ks with dolphin and co and the 3rd exition crowd. It was a few cards away from better than many constructed decks...

brandonsantacruz

> Joscha wrote: > > > Pascal wrote: > > The Carlton threat makes diablerie quite hazardous... > > > Bah, play Carlton yourself first . > EDIT: Or even better, diablerize with Rebirth, untap, play Carlton. > Then Carlton gets stolen and used against you. I say just DI or cross your fingers if you can't block the recruit action. Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one. -Friedrich Nietzsche brandonsantacruz.blogspot.com/

Reyda

" Just like you, I love to diablerize vampires. But I Hate Carlton. So I use Mask of a thousand faces in my daily diablerie routine. Remember guys, mask of thousand faces ! If the opponent is grinning, play a mask and suddenly it's Dimple doing the bad thing ! " Imagination is our only weapon in the war against reality -Jules de Gaultier

Joscha

OTOH nobody said that Rebirth is an ubercard. That's why it is rare to see it played and I love the draftformat where such cards can be seen more often. AND in draft there is no Carlton (normally at least ). Baron of Frankfurt

Pascal Bertrand

> Joscha wrote: > AND in draft there is no Carlton (normally at least ). > If you've never drafted a 10th Anniversary set, you've truely missed something in your existence.

wesile

With POD there might be carlton in drafts... Better... you use rebirth with a RL minion being on the safe side with carlton controlled by yourself, only to have it stolen by a Malk with Madness Net and used against you...

Boris The Blade

Why madness network? Anyone who steals Carlton during his next turn following the diablerie will be able to burn you in his discard phase.

Timo

Because there is ALLWAYS a lot more fun in including Madness Network when making combo/game scenarii.

Boris The Blade

Not if you didn't Clan Impersonate to Malkavian first

Chaitan

Works pretty well with Enkidu. Much safer in combination with Fueled by Heart's Blood also.

Reyda

actually no. the carlton problem remains the same -or it may be actually worse. While i can perfectly understand your predator or prey recruiting carlton to burn one of your key vamp (say, Dylan or Chavi), anyone on the table will destroy enkidu since xe's (*) a major threat in the long run. (*) note the subtle LSJ reference. Imagination is our only weapon in the war against reality -Jules de Gaultier