Tournament Winning Deck Archive Statitstics

As of October 20, 2012 there are 2,003 Tournament Winning Decks detailed in the archive . The Hall of Fame players account for 46% of those decks. 2011 was the year with the most reported tournament decks. Ventrue is the clan with most reported tournament wins. The United States is the country with the most reported tournament decks. France is the country with the most reported tournament decks in Europe. Ohio is the US state with the most reported tournament decks. 2,003 Tournament Winning Decks 13% 252 decks for top 10 players in the Hall of Fame 19% 376 decks for top 20 players in the Hall of Fame 24% 476 decks for top 30 players in the Hall of Fame 28% 561 decks for top 40 players in the Hall of Fame 32% 636 decks for top 50 players in the Hall of Fame 35% 701 decks for top 60 players in the Hall of Fame 38% 761 decks for top 70 players in the Hall of Fame 41% 816 decks for top 80 players in the Hall of Fame 43% 866 decks for top 90 players in the Hall of Fame 46% 916 decks for all 100 players in the Hall of Fame By Year 9% 174 TWDs reported in 2012 13% 269 TWDs reported in 2011 11% 211 TWDs reported in 2010 12% 238 TWDs reported in 2009 11% 221 TWDs reported in 2008 10% 200 TWDs reported in 2007 6% 113 TWDs reported in 2006 6% 116 TWDs reported in 2005 5% 100 TWDs reported in 2004 6% 117 TWDs reported in 2003 5% 93 TWDs reported in 2002 4% 75 TWDs reported in 2001 2% 35 TWDs reported in 2000 1% 22 TWDs reported in 1999 1% 15 TWDs reported in 1998 0% 4 TWDs reported in 1997 (5-6 vampires from the same clan qualifies, so some decks qualify to be in multiple clans) 0% 2 Abomination 2% 46 Ahrimanes 1% 24 Akunanse 2% 50 Assamite 2% 33 Baali 0% 5 Blood Brothers 3% 67 Brujah 1% 23 Brujah Antitribu 1% 16 Caitiff 1% 13 Daughters of Cacophony 3% 62 Followers of Set 4% 80 Gangrel 2% 47 Gangrel Antitribu 2% 35 Gargoyles 4% 90 Giovanni 1% 26 Guruhi 0% 6 Harbingers of Skulls 3% 62 Imbued 1% 26 Ishtarri 1% 30 Kiasyd 4% 85 Lasombra 6% 128 Malkavian 4% 90 Malkavian Antitribu 0% 1 Nagaraja 4% 71 Nosferatu 1% 28 Nosferatu Antitribu 1% 14 Osebo 1% 27 Pander 2% 41 Ravnos 1% 18 Salubri 0% 6 Salubri Antitribu 1% 11 Samedi 5% 97 Toreador 3% 55 Toreador Antitribu 4% 88 Tremere 3% 55 Tremere Antitribu 1% 11 True Brujah 4% 79 Tzimisce 7% 140 Ventrue 4% 77 Ventrue Antitribu 9% 190 Decks that don't fit under any one clan Countries 4% 76 Australia 0% 8 Austria 0% 9 Belarus 0% 10 Belgium 3% 68 Brazil 4% 89 Canada 2% 36 Chile 0% 6 Croatia 1% 28 Czech Republic 0% 7 Denmark 6% 124 Finland 7% 132 France 3% 53 Germany 0% 2 Greece 3% 53 Hungary 0% 2 Iceland 0% 1 Ireland 4% 74 Italy 0% 7 Mexico 2% 36 Netherlands 1% 12 Norway 1% 14 Philippines 4% 76 Poland 1% 17 Portugal 0% 7 Russia 0% 3 Scotland 1% 12 Serbia 0% 2 Singapore 0% 5 Slovak Republic 1% 22 South Africa 6% 119 Spain 6% 127 Sweden 0% 6 Switzerland 5% 92 United Kingdom 33% 666 United States United States 0% 2 Arizona 5% 108 California 1% 15 Colorado 0% 1 Connecticut 4% 82 Georgia 0% 8 Illinois 1% 20 Indiana 0% 1 Kansas 1% 14 Louisiana 0% 1 Maine 1% 12 Maryland 2% 44 Massachussetts 1% 18 Michigan 0% 6 Minnesota 1% 11 Nevada 1% 11 New Jersey 2% 35 New York 0% 9 North Carolina 0% 1 North Dakota 9% 172 Ohio 0% 1 Oklahoma 1% 11 Pennsylvania 1% 15 Rhode Island 0% 7 South Carolina 1% 22 Texas 0% 1 Utah 0% 1 Virginia 0% 9 Washington 1% 14 Washington, DC 1% 14 Wisconsin

Another view, sorted by quantities. 269 TWDs reported in 2011 238 TWDs reported in 2009 221 TWDs reported in 2008 211 TWDs reported in 2010 200 TWDs reported in 2007 174 TWDs reported in 2012 117 TWDs reported in 2003 116 TWDs reported in 2005 113 TWDs reported in 2006 100 TWDs reported in 2004 93 TWDs reported in 2002 75 TWDs reported in 2001 35 TWDs reported in 2000 22 TWDs reported in 1999 15 TWDs reported in 1998 4 TWDs reported in 1997 (5-6 vampires from the same clan qualifies, so some decks qualify to be in multiple clans) 190 Decks that don't fit under any one clan 140 Ventrue 128 Malkavian 97 Toreador 90 Giovanni 90 Malkavian Antitribu 88 Tremere 85 Lasombra 80 Gangrel 79 Tzimisce 77 Ventrue Antitribu 71 Nosferatu 67 Brujah 62 Followers of Set 62 Imbued 55 Toreador Antitribu 55 Tremere Antitribu 50 Assamite 47 Gangrel Antitribu 46 Ahrimanes 41 Ravnos 35 Gargoyles 33 Baali 30 Kiasyd 28 Nosferatu Antitribu 27 Pander 26 Guruhi 26 Ishtarri 24 Akunanse 23 Brujah Antitribu 18 Salubri 16 Caitiff 14 Osebo 13 Daughters of Cacophony 11 Samedi 11 True Brujah 6 Harbingers of Skulls 6 Salubri Antitribu 5 Blood Brothers 2 Abomination 1 Nagaraja Countries 666 United States 132 France 127 Sweden 124 Finland 119 Spain 92 United Kingdom 89 Canada 76 Australia 76 Poland 74 Italy 68 Brazil 53 Germany 53 Hungary 36 Chile 36 Netherlands 28 Czech Republic 22 South Africa 17 Portugal 14 Philippines 12 Norway 12 Serbia 10 Belgium 9 Belarus 8 Austria 7 Denmark 7 Mexico 7 Russia 6 Croatia 6 Switzerland 5 Slovak Republic 3 Scotland 2 Greece 2 Iceland 2 Singapore 1 Ireland United States 172 Ohio 108 California 82 Georgia 44 Massachussetts 35 New York 22 Texas 20 Indiana 18 Michigan 15 Colorado 15 Rhode Island 14 Louisiana 14 Washington, DC 14 Wisconsin 12 Maryland 11 Nevada 11 New Jersey 11 Pennsylvania 9 North Carolina 9 Washington 8 Illinois 7 South Carolina 6 Minnesota 2 Arizona 1 Connecticut 1 Kansas 1 Maine 1 North Dakota 1 Oklahoma 1 Utah 1 Virginia

By Attendance 1% 19 100 or more players 3% 54 Between 50 and 99 players 4% 74 Between 40 and 49 players 7% 133 Between 30 and 39 players 21% 413 Between 20 and 29 players 57% 1137 Between 10 and 19 players 8% 169 Decks reported prior to the attendance reporting requirement

218 Malkavian 217 Ventrue 152 Toreador 143 Tremere 127 Gangrel 99 Nosferatu 90 Brujah 90 Giovanni 85 Lasombra 79 Tzimisce 62 Followers of Set 50 Assamite 41 Ravnos Counting just 13 major clans. Interesting. Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.

I was indeed expecting Ravnos to be dead last of the major clan. On the other hand, seeing Kyaside and Baali behind Ravnos and Assamite does surprise me Instead, the far maligned Gangrel antitribu are a bit above Ravnos and twice as much present than !Brujah. Then again, it's a hasty study, since I didn't try to see what thoses decks encompasse ; also !Brujah don't have a deck-defining vampire like Enkidu. On the same hasty level of analysis, clans with a camarilla and a sabbat version with the same discipline (i.e. not the !gangrel and !ventrue that have significantly different discipline payload) almost alway have the camarila version much more present ; my opinion would tie this to three advantages : * 2nd Tradition, which mean any clan with Prince can have a pretty though defense. The !Brujah are particulary noteworthy on that (even if the Eurobrujah with also help) * Parity shift, which is pretty much unrivaled as far as votes go* * 11-caps with 4 votes and +2 bleed

> Ohlmann wrote: > * 2nd Tradition, which mean any clan with Prince can have a pretty though defense. The !Brujah are particulary noteworthy on that (even if the Eurobrujah with also help) > yup, !Brujah indeed have access to numerous Princes... Finnish Politics!

> Lönkka wrote: > > > Ohlmann wrote: > > * 2nd Tradition, which mean any clan with Prince can have a pretty though defense. The !Brujah are particulary noteworthy on that (even if the Eurobrujah with also help) > > > yup, !Brujah indeed have access to numerous Princes... > The idea of the phrase was "the !brujah are particulary underplayed compared to brujah because of that"*. I recon the phrasing wasn't very good. * 23 !brujah to 67 brujah, a ratio of ~3 camarilla for 1 sabbat, compared to a ratio of ~2 for other clan. !Nosferatu is the second worse with a ratio camarilla / sabbat a bit above 2.5. Unsuprisingly, it's also the two clan without bounce. The !gangrel are here again against expectation performing relatively well for sabbat.

Jeff, It appears that there are a few decks that have 5 or more vampires of the same clan, for two clans, and have not been counted as a win for both clans. It does appear, however, that these decks have one thing in common -- they have a clan which has 6-7 of one clan, which is the winning clan, and "only" 5 of another. Does that fact disqualify them? Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas "Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War* "Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier Please visit VTESville daily! vtesville.myminicity.com/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/129744447064017

If you have specifics, updates can be applied. If one clan meets the requirement and has more vampires than any other clan, then only that clan is counted. (i.e. 6 for clan1, 5 for clan2, only clan1 is credited with the win) A deck would only count twice when in the following situations: clan1clan2others 552+ 660+ 770+

> Lech wrote: > 218 Malkavian > 217 Ventrue > 152 Toreador > 143 Tremere > 127 Gangrel > 99 Nosferatu > 90 Brujah > 90 Giovanni > 85 Lasombra > 79 Tzimisce > 62 Followers of Set > 50 Assamite > 41 Ravnos > > Counting just 13 major clans. Interesting. > Does it make sense to add up Cam/Sabbat versions? For example Malk/!Malk can be pretty similiar (depending on group), while Ven/!Ven are vastly different (also in deck types). Also clans which Sabbats version sucks (Bru solid, !Bru crap) seem comparativly weak.

I think non-clan decks should be better scrutinized, because more of them can be asigned to a clan. For example: 1) Decks with anarch converts, can have 4 of the same clan which if you count the crypt without converts the ratio is over 5 12. Therefore converts should not be included in the clan crypt count to see if they have a ratio of better than 5 12 to be classified as a specific clan. 2) There are many decks based on star vampires, which do not have more than four of them. Many times the deck name is named after them, and most of the strategy of the deck is based around them. For example: Nana Buruku with multiple masters, Lutz deck with vampires with innate political actions & black forest base, Anu decks with multiple archon investigations, many salubri decks with heidelberg & spirit marionette, MPA decks with Huitzilopochtli or Cybele or MPA decks with Aksinya Daclau... 3) Decks which the revolves around clan combo. For example: Every Baron deck should be classified as samedi deck even it has only one Samedi. 4) Camarilla & Sabbat clan crossover decks. There are some decks which show different proportions of both clans and are classified in different ways: Exammples: a) 5+ vampires antitribu & camarilla. Classified as both antitribu & clan. b) 5+ clan or antitribu & 4 or the other. Only classified as one. c) 4 of both clan ( example 4 Dmnitra,3 Armin 1 Hektor). Classified as non-specific clan.

Dr Mafune, I understand your reasoning, but the line has to be drawn somewhere, you know, even if it seems a bit arbitrary :/ the diversity of crypts is so wide that there must be criterias, and those won"t please everyone. Besides this, it's just an indication of how clans perform in tournament, it does not have to be taken as scientific proof Imagination is our only weapon in the war against reality -Jules de Gaultier

> Dr.Mafrune wrote: > I think non-clan decks should be better scrutinized, because more of them can be asigned to a clan. > Feel free. The data is there: www.thelasombra.com/decks/twd.htm www.thelasombra.com/decks/clan-twd.htm www.thelasombra.com/decks/clan-twd.htm#Mixed

> Adonai wrote: > 0% 1 Nagaraja > I don't care what they say about the Mayans. Anything can happen, now. Anything.

> Adonai wrote: > If one clan meets the requirement and has more vampires than any other clan, then only that clan is counted. > Ah, that is what I was looking for. I hadn't seen that elsewhere on your pages -- did I miss it? If so, I apologize. If not, could you perhaps list it there? I only ask because I made a deck with 5/7 and it won a tournament and I thought it would have gotten two clan wins and I may have changed it if I knew. Or maybe I wouldn't have, I dunno. Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas "Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War* "Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier Please visit VTESville daily! vtesville.myminicity.com/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/129744447064017

And the country numbers sorted by wins per million population: 124 Finland 5,422,770 22.86654238 127 Sweden 9,532,634 13.32265563 2 Iceland 320,060 6.248828345 53 Hungary 9,957,731 5.322497665 76 Australia 22,788,752 3.334978589 28 Czech Republic 10,507,566 2.664746526 119 Spain 46,163,116 2.577815588 89 Canada 34,954,100 2.546196297 12 Norway 5,042,400 2.379819134 36 Chile 16,572,475 2.172276621 36 Netherlands 16,751,323 2.149083986 666 United States 314,617,000 2.116859547 132 France 65,350,000 2.019892884 76 Poland 38,538,447 1.972056632 12 Serbia 7,120,666 1.685235623 17 Portugal 10,561,614 1.609602472 92 United Kingdom 62,262,000 1.477626803 6 Croatia 4,290,612 1.398401906 7 Denmark 5,587,085 1.252889476 74 Italy 60,849,247 1.216120226 9 Belarus 9,459,000 0.951474786 8 Austria 8,452,835 0.946428033 10 Belgium 10,839,905 0.92251731 5 Slovak Republic 5,445,324 0.918219008 6 Switzerland 8,000,001 0.749999906 53 Germany 81,857,000 0.647470589 3 Scotland 5,254,800 0.5709066 22 South Africa 50,586,757 0.43489643 2 Singapore 5,183,700 0.385824797 68 Brazil 193,946,886 0.350611456 1 Ireland 4,588,252 0.217947924 2 Greece 10,787,690 0.185396503 14 Philippines 92,337,852 0.151617129 7 Mexico 112,336,538 0.062312762 7 Russia 143,228,300 0.048873023 Go Iceland! Population numbers have been taken from Wikipedia and Scotland as a separate entity from the UK seems a tad strange.

Finland, where you are 5-10 times or more likely to run into a VTES player than almost anywhere else in the World. Jussi Hattara Webmaster Extraordinaire Finnish Politics!

> Lemminkäinen wrote: > And the country numbers sorted by wins per million population: > [code] > Population numbers have been taken from Wikipedia and Scotland as a separate entity from the UK seems a tad strange. > It's because the Scots used to run their own qualifier for 3 years (likewise the Welsh but I guess those are under UK). It'd be interesting to see how different TWDAs are if done by nationality rather than country e.g. does Sweden have the best away team or FInland?

> KevinM wrote: > I hadn't seen that elsewhere on your pages -- did I miss it? > It's been there since the introduction of the Clan webpage on October 3, 2001. Usenet announcement > Clan-twd.htm wrote: > If a deck has 5 or 6 vampires of one clan, and no other clan has more members in the crypt of that deck, it will be listed under that clan. >

I sorta wonder how a list like the TWDA would break down if more than just the winners were recorded? How it might look if say, there were an archive open to all decks that make the final table or something. I think there are certain decktypes that can generally do well enough to make it there, but don't necessarily have what it takes to emerge victorious at the end of the day.

> LunaSlave wrote: > I sorta wonder how a list like the TWDA would break down if more than just the winners were recorded? How it might look if say, there were an archive open to all decks that make the final table or something. I think there are certain decktypes that can generally do well enough to make it there, but don't necessarily have what it takes to emerge victorious at the end of the day. > It would be interesting to see statistics on the First Place Curse(TM). Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas "Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War* "Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier Please visit VTESville daily! vtesville.myminicity.com/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/129744447064017

I'd rather have a separate page for all the other interesting decks. Finnish Politics!

Because slicing the TWDA in various ways is a fun way to waste time, I decided to look at trying to identifier "Superstar" decks. (This is using the twd as downloaded on 2012/10/26, so it doesn't include any of the EC decks yet). Superstar definition used: The vampire must be unique. At least 33% of the crypt (so 4/12, 5/13, but not 4/13) Anarch Convert is ignored (because of decks like www.thelasombra.com/decks/twd.htm#2k9erasmusmontpellier ) More than any other unique vampire in the crypt (thus www.thelasombra.com/decks/twd.htm#2012ctbcpj is considered an Unnamed superstar deck) Advanced and base version are considered the same vampire "Camille Devereux, The Raven" is over-represented from the period when the Jyhad and VTES versions were considered different vampires. I have not tried to compensate for that. By vampire: Anson : 36 decks Antonio d'Erlette : 22 decks Howler : 21 decks Nana Buruku : 21 decks Lutz von Hohenzollern : 15 decks Rachel Brandywine : 14 decks Arika : 12 decks Cybele : 12 decks Enkidu, The Noah : 11 decks Dmitra Ilyanova : 10 decks Guillaume Giovanni : 10 decks Stanislava : 10 decks Travis "Traveler72" Miller : 10 decks Lazverinus, Thrall of Lambach : 9 decks Aksinya Daclau : 8 decks Carna, The Princess Witch : 8 decks Gabrin : 8 decks Lucian : 8 decks Amaravati : 7 decks Ayo Igoli : 7 decks Nakhthorheb : 7 decks The unnamed : 7 decks Eze, The Demon Prince : 6 decks Henry Taylor : 6 decks Nergal : 6 decks Saulot, The Wanderer : 6 decks Sheldon, Lord of the Clog : 6 decks Ira Rivers : 5 decks Lambach : 5 decks Mata Hari : 5 decks Theo Bell : 5 decks Una : 5 decks Anneke : 4 decks Cailean : 4 decks Camille Devereux, The Raven : 4 decks Cock Robin : 4 decks Gerald Windham : 4 decks Jost Werner : 4 decks Leandro : 4 decks Little Tailor of Prague : 4 decks Marconius : 4 decks Mary Anne Blaire : 4 decks Nefertiti : 4 decks Omaya : 4 decks Sébastian Goulet : 4 decks Tariq, The Silent : 4 decks Tsunda : 4 decks Alexandra : 3 decks Ambrosio Luis Monçada, Plenipotentiary : 3 decks Cesewayo : 3 decks Elimelech the Twice-Damned : 3 decks Eurayle Gelasia Mylonas : 3 decks Gabrielle di Righetti : 3 decks Hannibal : 3 decks Huitzilopochtli : 3 decks Ian Forestal : 3 decks Jacob Fermor : 3 decks Lithrac : 3 decks Malgorzata : 3 decks Marcus Vitel : 3 decks Maris Streck : 3 decks Matthias : 3 decks Miller Delmardigan, Teacher of Bahari : 3 decks Muricia : 3 decks Nadima : 3 decks Orlando Oriundus : 3 decks Shalmath : 3 decks Tegyrius, Vizier : 3 decks The Baron : 3 decks Tryphosa : 3 decks Al-Muntathir, God's Witness : 2 decks Alfred Benezri : 2 decks Alonso Petrodon : 2 decks Asguresh : 2 decks Ash Harrison : 2 decks Beast, The Leatherface of Detroit : 2 decks Beckett : 2 decks Cardano : 2 decks Casino Reeds : 2 decks Dmitri Borodin : 2 decks Dragos : 2 decks Fidus, The Shrunken Beast : 2 decks Goratrix : 2 decks Ingrid Rossler : 2 decks Izhim abd Azrael : 2 decks Jack Dawson : 2 decks Jibade el-Bahrawi : 2 decks Lucian, the Perfect : 2 decks Lucita : 2 decks Neighbor John : 2 decks Nikolaus Vermeulen : 2 decks Pherydima : 2 decks Rebekka, Chantry Elder of Munich : 2 decks Sascha Vykos, The Angel of Caine : 2 decks Selma the Repugnant : 2 decks Spiridonas : 2 decks Synesios : 2 decks Thetmes, Caliph of Alamut : 2 decks Thucimia : 2 decks Zubeida : 2 decks Aisata Swanou : 1 deck Alvaro, The Scion of Angelica : 1 deck Ambrogino Giovanni : 1 deck Anatole, Prophet of Gehenna : 1 deck Andrea Giovanni : 1 deck Angelo : 1 deck Anu Diptinatpa : 1 deck Appius Claudius Corvus : 1 deck Ardan Lane : 1 deck Armin Brenner : 1 deck Ayelea, The Manipulator : 1 deck Black Annis : 1 deck Blanche Hill : 1 deck Chandler Hungerford : 1 deck Chaundice : 1 deck Corine Marcón : 1 deck Count Germaine : 1 deck Crusher : 1 deck Djuhah, The Bronze Bow : 1 deck Effie Lowery : 1 deck Esau : 1 deck Etrius : 1 deck Fakir al Sidi : 1 deck Faruq : 1 deck François Villon : 1 deck Giovanni del Georgio : 1 deck Guedado : 1 deck Gwendolyn : 1 deck Hardestadt : 1 deck Harrod : 1 deck Hartmut Stover : 1 deck Hektor : 1 deck Hesha Ruhadze : 1 deck Horatio : 1 deck Isanwayen : 1 deck Ivan Krenyenko : 1 deck Jacko : 1 deck Janey Pickman : 1 deck Jaroslav Pascek : 1 deck Jennie "Cassie247" Orne : 1 deck Joaquin Murietta : 1 deck Julius : 1 deck Kabede Maru : 1 deck Karsh : 1 deck Lady Zara Slatikov : 1 deck Lodin (Olaf Holte) : 1 deck Lord Ashton : 1 deck Lorrie Dunsirn : 1 deck Louhi : 1 deck Luc : 1 deck Lucas Halton : 1 deck Lucretia, Cess Queen : 1 deck Maria Stone : 1 deck Massassi : 1 deck Matata : 1 deck Maureen, Dark Priestess : 1 deck Meshenka : 1 deck Mirembe Kabbada : 1 deck Mistress Fanchon : 1 deck Mordechai Ben-Nun : 1 deck Nangila Were : 1 deck Olugbenga : 1 deck Owain Evans, The Wanderer : 1 deck Paul Cordwood : 1 deck Pochtli : 1 deck Qadir ul-Ghani : 1 deck Rabbat, The Sewer Goddess : 1 deck Saul Meira : 1 deck Silvia Giovanni : 1 deck Sonja Blue : 1 deck Suhailah : 1 deck Talbot : 1 deck Tatiana Stepanova, Alastor : 1 deck Teresita, The Godmother : 1 deck Titi Camara : 1 deck Torvus Bloodbeard : 1 deck Troglodytia : 1 deck Uchenna : 1 deck Undele : 1 deck Unmada : 1 deck Ur-Shulgi, The Shepherd : 1 deck Valerius Maior, Hell's Fool : 1 deck Vasiliy Vasilevich : 1 deck Victor Pelletier : 1 deck Vidal Jarbeaux : 1 deck Xaviar : 1 deck Ysador the Foul : 1 deck Yseult : 1 deck And, since someone will almost certainly ask for this breakdown: 1998 : 1 / 15 (6.66667 %) 2001 : 8 / 75 (10.66667 %) 2002 : 11 / 93 (11.82796 %) 2003 : 29 / 117 (24.78632 %) 2004 : 29 / 100 (29.00000 %) 2005 : 33 / 116 (28.44828 %) 2006 : 40 / 113 (35.39823 %) 2007 : 62 / 200 (31.00000 %) 2008 : 56 / 221 (25.33937 %) 2009 : 81 / 238 (34.03361 %) 2010 : 81 / 211 (38.38863 %) 2011 : 106 / 269 (39.40520 %) 2012 : 68 / 182 (37.36264 %) -- National Coordinator South Africa

As much as anything else, this makes me convinced that we should consider inserting a rule that states "A Methuselah may play a maximum of only two masters per turn." And then make Parthenon free. Yeah, it'd be a major change. Yeah, it'd break the game wide, wide open. Yeah, I think that'd be much more fun. No, I'm not going to push it in any way, because it'll never happen. Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas "Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War* "Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier Please visit VTESville daily! vtesville.myminicity.com/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/129744447064017

> KevinM wrote: > As much as anything else, this makes me convinced... > What (in the numbers) convinced you? When you are anvil, be patient; when a hammer, strike. pckvtes.wordpress.com @pckvtes

If someone can do it easily, I'd like to see a breakdown of the most commonly played vampires in the TWDA, ideally down to those that aren't in the TWDA. Specifically, total number in one chart and number of decks present in another, with the latter being more useful. Traveller Card Game

Is there an API to request data from secretlibrary ? (for the non-technical mind, it mean a way to retrieve information in a form unreadable by human but convenient for computer)

Some simple queries are possible www.secretlibrary.info/api.php Jussi Hattara Webmaster Extraordinaire Finnish Politics!

> Jeff wrote: > > > KevinM wrote: > > As much as anything else, this makes me convinced... > > > What (in the numbers) convinced you? > Three of the top eight vampires bestowing an additional Master Phase Action. There is no other trait in the top 8 vampires that matches so exactly. Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas "Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War* "Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier Please visit VTESville daily! vtesville.myminicity.com/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/129744447064017

> KevinM wrote: > > > Jeff wrote: > > > > > KevinM wrote: > > > As much as anything else, this makes me convinced... > > > > > > > > What (in the numbers) convinced you? > > > Three of the top eight vampires bestowing an additional Master Phase Action. > > There is no other trait in the top 8 vampires that matches so exactly. > 6 out of 8 have presence. Isak Esbjörnsson Bjärmark

> KevinM wrote: > > > Jeff wrote: > > > > > KevinM wrote: > > > As much as anything else, this makes me convinced... > > > > > > > > What (in the numbers) convinced you? > > > Three of the top eight vampires bestowing an additional Master Phase Action. > > There is no other trait in the top 8 vampires that matches so exactly. > Not that I don't agree that MMPA should be toned down, but I want to point out that 6 out of the top 8 vampires have . Also, 4 out of the 8 have .

> KevinM wrote: > Three of the top eight vampires bestowing an additional Master Phase Action. > > There is no other trait in the top 8 vampires that matches so exactly. > Well, we are talking about "star" vampires in this discussion. Clearly multiple MPAs is a great special ability. But, I am curious of the counts and percents without the restrictions to make them "star" vampire decks. I think the results will be somewhat different. When you are anvil, be patient; when a hammer, strike. pckvtes.wordpress.com @pckvtes

> AaronC wrote: > > > KevinM wrote: > > > > > Jeff wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KevinM wrote: > > > > As much as anything else, this makes me convinced... > > > > > > > > > > > What (in the numbers) convinced you? > > > > > Three of the top eight vampires bestowing an additional Master Phase Action. > > > > There is no other trait in the top 8 vampires that matches so exactly. > > > Not that I don't agree that MMPA should be toned down, but I want to point out that 6 out of the top 8 vampires have . > > Also, 4 out of the 8 have . > > Forhead wrote: > 6 out of 8 have presence. > You know, I would have bet cash money that someone would have said these things. Yes, there are some disciplines there a lot like and but those haven't been perceived to be a creeping problem like multiple Master Phases Actions have been thought to be (at least recently). Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas "Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War* "Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier Please visit VTESville daily! vtesville.myminicity.com/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/129744447064017

> ICL wrote: > If someone can do it easily, I'd like to see a breakdown of the most commonly played vampires in the TWDA, ideally down to those that aren't in the TWDA. Specifically, total number in one chart and number of decks present in another, with the latter being more useful. > Since I did something similar in the Most underused card discussion last year, I've updated the stats on crypt and library usage here with the figures from the TWDA before the EC. I'm not going to include the full lists here, but since most people probably aren't interested in plowing throught the lists themselves - the top 15 vampires in the TWDA: Isabel de Leon - 90 decks Zöe - 89 decks Gloria Giovanni - 88 decks Anson - 87 decks Arika - 76 decks Isabel Giovanni - 73 decks Volker, The Puppet Prince - 73 decks Anarch Convert - 70 decks Remilliard, Devout Crusader - 68 decks Ingrid Russo - 67 decks Keith Moody - 66 decks Lia Milliner - 65 decks Jost Werner - 63 decks Ranjan Rishi, Camarilla Scholar - 63 decks Jennie "Cassie247" Orne - 60 decks Since 2010, the top fifteen are: Anarch Convert - 41 decks (70 all time) Nana Buruku - 38 decks (41 all time) Lutz von Hohenzollern - 37 decks (46 all time) Keith Moody - 35 decks (66 all time) Stick - 31 decks (44 all time) Jephta Hester - 28 decks (47 all time) Bobby Lemon - 27 decks (56 all time) Cybele - 27 decks (37 all time) "Owain Evans, The Wanderer" - 26 decks (56 all time) Neighbor John - 26 decks (49 all time) Ulrike Rothbart - 26 decks (39 all time) Beetleman - 26 decks (32 all time) Rafael de Corazon - 26 decks (31 all time) Zöe - 25 decks (89 all time) Anson - 25 decks (87 all time) -- National Coordinator South Africa

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