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Joseph DiGiaccomo & Untaping

7 messages from 5 participants · 11 October 2012 – 12 October 2012 · vekn.net/forum
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extrala

> Joseph DiGiaccomo [KoT:V] > Cardtype: Vampire > Clan: Ventrue > Group: 5 > Capacity: 6 > Discipline: aus dom for PRE > Camarilla: Joseph untaps whenever any Methuselah puts a master: location in play. > Does Jospeh untap when a Master: location (in the narrow sense) is put into play, or does his special ability also includes Master: unique locations? I guess the former, but I want to make sure.

Squidalot

Unique locations are a subset of locations. I assume you're waiting for Pascal to answer this - but you can see how 'location' applies equally with Arika or Therbold Realty to 'Unique' and non-unique locations.

extrala

I agree on the subset relation between general locations and unique locations. But both Arika and Therbold Realty use only the word "locations", while Joseph explicitly uses the term "Master: location". So let's wait what the official rules monger has to say about this ..

Ankha

> extrala wrote: > I agree on the subset relation between general locations and unique locations. But both Arika and Therbold Realty use only the word "locations", while Joseph explicitly uses the term "Master: location". > > So let's wait what the official rules monger has to say about this .. > Because Arika affects Palatial Estate, whereas Joseph ignores it. Anyway, a Master: unique location is a location + a master + a unique card, so if it's a least a Master + location, Joseph is happy and untaps. Think also of Path of Typhoon that reduce the cost of cards that require Serpentis and that work on Typhonic Beast that require Serpentis + Potence. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Pascal Bertrand

> Squidalot wrote: > Unique locations are a subset of locations. > Correct - which means the answer to the initial question is "Yes, Joseph untaps when Secure Haven (or other similar Master: unique location) are put in play". For some reason, non-master unique locations have beene reworded to "location. unique." but no the master cards. I'll see to have this checked for the next RTR.

Azel

Might I submit a request that non-master locations be addressed in RTR by the loving community sobriquet of 'locquipment'? It'd be a truly groundbreaking CCG keyword.

Pascal Bertrand

> Azel wrote: > Might I submit a request that non-master locations be addressed in RTR by the loving community sobriquet of 'locquipment'? It'd be a truly groundbreaking CCG keyword. > Even though the coining is awesome and I love it, it would just mess with all the cards/rules. Either Conceal would have to be reworded "Equipment, location, or locquipment", or the Rulebook should have an entry for "Locquipment: "location when in play, equipment the rest of the time", but locquipments would still have the equipment symbol. I'll add that to my suggestion list