How does Siren's Lure interact with a block attempt from Unleash Hell's Fury ?
Is UHF tapped? (notice that it can't block, which would make it cease to be a minion, before it was tapped by the SL text)
Does it matter that UHF is tapped, i.e. can it block while tapped?
What happens if UHF is tapped by Remover ? Can it still block?
Is there a comprehensive Siren's Lure interaction list/FAQ?
Here are all of LSJ's posts that include the term.
UHF can attempt to block even if it's tapped. www.vekn.net/index.php/forum/6-rules-questions/15007-what-about-a-tapped-unleash-hells-fury
Block denial works on UHF just as with any vampire. But as it's no longer a minion after it stops blocking the rest of the Siren's Lure's text is irrelevant.
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> Adonai wrote:
> How does Siren's Lure interact with a block attempt from Unleash Hell's Fury ?
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UHF's block attempt fails, and the modifying vampire taps.
> Adonai wrote:
> Is UHF tapped? (notice that it can't block, which would make it cease to be a minion, before it was tapped by the SL text)
>
UHF isn't tapped. As soon as it ceases to block, it ceases to be "that minion".
> Adonai wrote:
> Does it matter that UHF is tapped, i.e. can it block while tapped?
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It can block while tapped: [LSJ 20100210] .
> Adonai wrote:
> What happens if UHF is tapped by Remover ? Can it still block?
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Yes, per the link above.
> Adonai wrote:
> Is there a comprehensive Siren's Lure interaction list/FAQ?
> Here are all of LSJ's posts that include the term.
>
Is there anything unclear with Siren's Lure?
>>Is there anything unclear with Siren's Lure?
Yes, I'm a bit unclear as to how Siren's Lure interacts with Psyche!, Form of Mist, and other copies of itself. I'm sure I've seen the ruling before from LSJ on rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad, but I can't find it.
Please elaborate when you have the time.
-- Brian
> islandofyiaros wrote:
> >>Is there anything unclear with Siren's Lure?
>
> Yes, I'm a bit unclear as to how Siren's Lure interacts with Psyche!, Form of Mist, and other copies of itself. I'm sure I've seen the ruling before from LSJ on rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad, but I can't find it.
>
There's something about not being able to queue up more combats beyond one past the current one. I forget exactly. Ask Pascal.
> BenPeal wrote:
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> > islandofyiaros wrote:
> > >>Is there anything unclear with Siren's Lure?
> >
> > Yes, I'm a bit unclear as to how Siren's Lure interacts with Psyche!, Form of Mist, and other copies of itself. I'm sure I've seen the ruling before from LSJ on rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad, but I can't find it.
> >
> There's something about not being able to queue up more combats beyond one past the current one. I forget exactly. Ask Pascal.
>
Ah, that one went quite unnoticed... Thank you, wowlijetgold for bringing it back !
So, the general ruling is: You can't queue a combat if there is already one queued right after the current one.
This basically means:
- You can't play Psyche! if someone (usually the opponent) played Blissful Agony (unless you've dodged).
- You can, however, play Telepathic Tracking on Blissful Agony, as it doesn't create a new combat.
- You can't play Psyche! if someone (usually the opponent) played Illusions of the Kindred (unless you've dodged).
Now, Siren's Lure does queue a combat, but after the action's resolution. So we need to consider the following situations:
- Can I play two Siren's Lures on the same action? => No. [LSJ 20020123]
- Can I play Psyche! during the action's resolution (and before the Siren's Lure combat) ? => Yes. [LSJ 20090324]
- Can I play Psyche! after the Siren's Lure combat? => Yes.
- If I play Siren's Lure, and then am block, and in the resulting combat, play Form of Mist and continue the action, when does the Siren's Lure's combat start? => After the last resolution, and not as soon as the first resolution is reached. That is: You continue your action, and after it's successful / finally blocked, Siren's Lure kicks in. (this is probably a new ruling, but it stands there for coherence with the other rulings).
- Can I play sup' Form of Mist in the Siren's Lure combat? => Yes, but you won't be able to continue the action (Siren's Lure states we are now past resolution).