Vampire A chooses a hand strike that deals aggravated damage.
Vampire B chooses Coma [superior] as its strike.
i was told that Vampire A goes to torpor, and doesn't get to inflict the damage from its strike because the torporing effect resolves during 'strike resolution' a and ended combat similar to a strike: combat ends effect so it doesn't get to 'damage resolution.'
i let it slide, not wanting to cause an argument i wasn't prepared to back up, but the logic seemed fishy to me (not to mention totally not my favor). i mean, if two vampires each hit each other they both go to torpor, right? how is this different?
Strike Resolution:
1. Combat Ends
2. Dodge
3. First Strike
4. Regular Strike
as you did not specify that Coma was done at First Strike, then you are correct. Aggravated damage and Coma resolves at the same time, and if the aggravated damage is not prevented, both vamps go to torpor.
> jtroyve wrote:
> Strike Resolution:
> 1. Combat Ends
> 2. Dodge
> 3. First Strike
> 4. Regular Strike
>
Amost correct: Dodge prevents the dodger (and its retainers) from the opposing minion's SCE (Catatonic Fear, Blissful Agony, Meld with the Land, ...)
>
> jtroyve wrote:
> as you did not specify that Coma was done at First Strike, then you are correct. Aggravated damage and Coma resolves at the same time, and if the aggravated damage is not prevented, both vamps go to torpor.
>
Correct.
> Pascal wrote:
>
> > jtroyve wrote:
> > as you did not specify that Coma was done at First Strike, then you are correct. Aggravated damage and Coma resolves at the same time, and if the aggravated damage is not prevented, both vamps go to torpor.
> >
> Correct.
>
Well, "aggravated damage" is a not a strike per se, but an attribute of a strike. To be more specific here it would have to be "a handstrike which deals aggravated damage", or shorter an "aggravated handstrike".
Domain of Evernight and Outside the Hourglass would also result in "aggravated damage", and to say that this damage is resolved at the same time as a strike "Coma" is misleading and wrong.
Just saying.
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Well, I agree what I wrote was a shortcut for "Coma and Strike: agg damage resolve at the same time". It was pretty obvious, in this context ("strike resolution"), that all damage was from strike resolution.
Given the original posters description it seemed to me that his fellow players were not really familiar with the rules and/or mixing things up.
So I thought it might be appropriate to be very concise with the terms so they don't get it wrong again. B-)
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