Scry the Hearthstone - Clarification

Scry the Hearthstone Reaction Only usable during a action against you. +1 intercept. As above, with an optional maneuver in the resulting combat if this vampire successfully blocks. Cancel an action card or action modifier card that requires Chimerstry or Obfuscate as it is played (no cost is paid). So the question is, can it only be played during D action against you even on superior? This slightly confuses how it is actually printed in the card, so decided to ask for clarification. Thank you in advance.

> Kude wrote: > Scry the Hearthstone > Reaction > Only usable during a action against you. > > So the question is, can it only be played during D action against you even on superior? > The bold text above the discipline specific text applies to all levels. At superior visceratika , you may cancel an Obfuscate or Chimerstry action card or action modifier when your opponent attempts to bleed you or rush your minions or burn your locations (or other directed actions against you). It is great to defend against that Elder Impersonation or Lost in Crowds that would make your block fail.

I'll have a follow up question. Can I cancel, say, Domain of Evernight as it is played using as the card requires obfuscate as well, at outferior? I'm pretty sure I can, just want to be doubly sure. Domain of Evernight [obf] +1 stealth. [tem] If this action is blocked, all damage done to vampires in the resulting combat is aggravated. [TEM] Only usable when an action is successful. Untap this acting vampire. A vampire can play only one Domain of Evernight at superior each turn. "Oh, to the Hades with the manners! He's a complete bastard, and calling him that insults bastards everywhere!" -Nalia De-Arnise garourimgazette.wordpress.com/ www.vekn.net/forum-guidelines

> Kraus wrote: > I'll have a follow up question. > > Can I cancel, say, Domain of Evernight as it is played using as the card requires obfuscate as well, at outferior? I'm pretty sure I can, just want to be doubly sure. > No, because it doesn't use the obfuscate effect. If obfuscate was required when played at [tem], a vampire without obfuscate couldn't play it... Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

> Ankha wrote: > > > Kraus wrote: > > I'll have a follow up question. > > > > Can I cancel, say, Domain of Evernight as it is played using as the card requires obfuscate as well, at outferior? I'm pretty sure I can, just want to be doubly sure. > > > No, because it doesn't use the obfuscate effect. > If obfuscate was required when played at [tem], a vampire without obfuscate couldn't play it... > Well, the funny thing is that Scrying the Heartstone doesn't cancel EFFECTS requiring obfuscate, but CARDS that require obfuscate. Domain does require obfuscate as outferior, even if it's effect is not used. I can see your reasoning, and it would make sense, but there is still room for another interpretation, so I'm not bought just yet. "Oh, to the Hades with the manners! He's a complete bastard, and calling him that insults bastards everywhere!" -Nalia De-Arnise garourimgazette.wordpress.com/ www.vekn.net/forum-guidelines

Well, if the whole card did require obfuscate (and not only at the [obf] level), the reasoning would be the same: a vampire without obfuscate couldn't play it at all. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

> Adonai wrote: > > > Kude wrote: > > Scry the Hearthstone > > Reaction > > Only usable during a action against you. > > > > So the question is, can it only be played during D action against you even on superior? > > > The bold text above the discipline specific text applies to all levels. > At superior visceratika , you may cancel an Obfuscate or Chimerstry action card or action modifier when your opponent attempts to bleed you or rush your minions or burn your locations (or other directed actions against you). > Correct. Similarly, Beetleman can't play Sense the Savage Way. > Ankha wrote: > > > Kraus wrote: > > I'll have a follow up question. > > > > Can I cancel, say, Domain of Evernight as it is played using as the card requires obfuscate as well, at outferior? I'm pretty sure I can, just want to be doubly sure. > > > No, because it doesn't use the obfuscate effect. > If obfuscate was required when played at [tem], a vampire without obfuscate couldn't play it... > Correct. See also [LSJ 20050322] where LSJ states "a card played requires whatever was required to play it".

Thank you for the replies! Helped a ton, also Kraus' question bugged me before, but couldn't recall what the ruling was.

The whole replies from LSJ in that link are very helpful. Sadly, I can't find the bldoc.html he's referring to

Thank you! "Oh, to the Hades with the manners! He's a complete bastard, and calling him that insults bastards everywhere!" -Nalia De-Arnise garourimgazette.wordpress.com/ www.vekn.net/forum-guidelines