rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Dumb rules question

9 messages from 5 participants · 18 April 2011 – 20 April 2011 · vekn.net/forum
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Dervish

If I play Eagle Sight to block my prey bleeding, does my Corpse Balloon grant me intercept? Most of those cards for D actions say YOU, such as Eyes of Argus. I've been out of the loop for a bit, and I know D actions changed over the time I was gone. Thanks Eagle's Sight: [AUS] This reacting vampire attempts to block the current action, ignoring the normal prey, predator or target restrictions for blocking actions. Corpse Balloon Type: Retainer Requires: Vicissitude Ghoul with 1 life. [vic] If the minion with this retainer blocks a action, he or she gets an optional maneuver on the first round of the resulting combat. [VIC] As above, and this minion gets +1 intercept against actions. More evidence that your deck need not be good in order to win: thelasombra.com/decks/twd.htm#2011tottco

Pascal Bertrand

Yes, Corpse Balloon grants intercept against any action, whoever the target(s) of the action is (are).

Dervish

Can you point me to the D action ruling change? I think it was something like, D actions against yourself don't become undirected, but can be blocked by prey and pred as an undirected action, or similar. Thanks! More evidence that your deck need not be good in order to win: thelasombra.com/decks/twd.htm#2011tottco

Pascal Bertrand

actions "against yourself" are undirected and can be blocked by prey or predator without Eagle's Sight. Common example is the rescue-your-own-vampire action. An action that targets more than 1 Methuselah (which used to be undirected, in the past) is now directed at those Methuselahs. Examples: sup' Taunt the Caged Beast is now a action. Jaroslav Pascek, Edged Illusion are other examples. [RTR 080808]

KevinM

> floppyzedolfin wrote: > actions "against yourself" are undirected and can be blocked by prey or predator without Eagle's Sight. Common example is the rescue-your-own-vampire action. > > An action that targets more than 1 Methuselah (which used to be undirected, in the past) is now directed at those Methuselahs. Examples: sup' Taunt the Caged Beast is now a action. Jaroslav Pascek, Edged Illusion are other examples. > [RTR 080808] > Jaroslav and Edged Illusion don't target multiple Methuselahs, they target multiple *minions*. Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas "Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War* "Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier Please visit VTESville daily! vtesville.myminicity.com/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/129744447064017 Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas "Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War* "Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier Please visit VTESville daily! vtesville.myminicity.com/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/129744447064017

Ankha

> KevinM wrote: > > > floppyzedolfin wrote: > > actions "against yourself" are undirected and can be blocked by prey or predator without Eagle's Sight. Common example is the rescue-your-own-vampire action. > > > > An action that targets more than 1 Methuselah (which used to be undirected, in the past) is now directed at those Methuselahs. Examples: sup' Taunt the Caged Beast is now a action. Jaroslav Pascek, Edged Illusion are other examples. > > [RTR 080808] > > > Jaroslav and Edged Illusion don't target multiple Methuselahs, they target multiple *minions*. > > Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas > "Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles > you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War* > "Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier > Please visit VTESville daily! vtesville.myminicity.com/ > Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/129744447064017 > I may be wrong, but action targeting a minion targets also the Methuselah controlling the minion. That's why cards that trigger when there is an action directed against "you" trigger also when there is an action directed to "something you control". See groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/browse_frm/thread/8f0605e1fe1c8290/47a66b15dbb95f3b?lnk=gst&q=directed+against+you+author%3Alsj#47a66b15dbb95f3b Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Robert Scythe

Ankha, you are not wrong. However, Kevin was pointing out that Floppy's statement about D actions targeting multiple methuselahs, ala Taunt The Caged Beast, is not true for Jaroslav and Edged Illusion which do NOT target multiple methuselahs. Floppy is correct except citing the others as more examples.

Pascal Bertrand

Well, my statement was "An example of what is now a action is sup' Taunt the Caged Beast. Other examples [of what is now a action] are Jaroslav's ability and Edged Illusion.

Robert Scythe

That wasn't your statement, but was probably what you meant. Just defending Kevin's reason for posting, for lack of anything better to do.