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previous attempt abhorrent, hows this?

18 messages from 9 participants · 07 August 2012 – 01 September 2012 · vekn.net/forum
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mirddes

Deck Name : thatre Author : Mirdea Description : Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 5 max: 10 average: 7.58333 4x Hector Trelane (5) Tremere (group 4) 3x Malgorzata (9) priscus Tremere antitribu (group 4) 3x Paul Cordwood (8) bishop Tremere antitribu (group 4) 2x Lucas Halton (10) prince Tremere (group 3) Library [90 cards] Action [4] 4x Govern the Unaligned Action Modifier [10] 2x Conditioning 2x Foreshadowing Destruction 6x Mirror Walk Combat [29] 4x Apportation 3x Drain Essence 3x Read Intentions 4x Rego Motus 5x Theft of Vitae 10x Walk of Flame Equipment [3] 2x Hawg 1x Palatial Estate Master [20] 1x Academic Hunting Ground 1x Channel 10 1x KRCG News Radio 1x London Evening Star, Tabloid Newspaper 4x Minion Tap 1x Powerbase: Chicago 1x Powerbase: Washington, D.C. 1x Rack, The 1x Rumor Mill, Tabloid Newspaper, The 1x University Hunting Ground 6x Vessel 1x WMRH Talk Radio Reaction [24] 5x Deflection 4x Enhanced Senses 1x Forced Awakening 4x On the Qui Vive 6x Spirit's Touch 2x Telepathic Misdirection 2x Wake with Evening's Freshness Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Tue Aug 07 19:36:20 2012] UDHR18/19/27

Pascal Bertrand

A Bowl of Convergence, perhaps? And a couple of Magic of the Smiths? The Ruins of Ceoris might be useful. Eyes of Argus is probably better than Wake with Evening's Freshness and Forced Awakening (except if someone else is playing events)

Lönkka

Quite a few Walk of Flames (as well as Drains Essences) there, yet not THAT many presses to continue. Remove some WoF/DE and add some more Apportations -maneuver/press = doubleplusgood. More presses would be gained from Mob Connections, but you already are somewhat heavy with masters. Perhaps replacing one of the Poewerbases/Hunting Grounds with it? Also with two Powerbases to temp theft by other players you have just 2 Wakes/OtQV. Lastly, not counting Hector, plenty of bigcaps with no crypt acceleration (Info Highway, Zillah's Valley) and precious few Governs (to Govern down). Swedes would not approve Finnish Politics!

mirddes

> Malgorzata > Clan: Tremere antitribu (group 4) > Capacity: 9 > Disciplines: AUS DOM THA VIC pre > Sabbat priscus: Malgorzata may remove a vampire in your uncontrolled region from the game to add 4 blood from the blood bank to another vampire in your uncontrolled region as a +1 stealth action. > sounds better than govern. thinking of working in a few Skin of the Chameleon Swedes?? where art thou Swedes? UDHR18/19/27

Boris The Blade

If you plan on using Malgorzata, you need ways to refill your uncontrolled region, for example: -2 Powerbase -1 London Evening Star -1 Rumor Mill +4 Effective Management > > mirddes wrote: > thinking of working in a few Skin of the Chameleon > Don't. It costs blood and you need to use it before combat, so it will be wasted most of the time.

Lönkka

> mirddes wrote: > sounds better than govern. > Both is better, especially if no Malgorzata is in uncontolled. (no Wider Views in the deck and just 3 Malgorzatas). Also Govern has offensive capabilities Finnish Politics!

mirddes

Deck Name : thatre Author : Mirdea Description : Crypt [13 vampires] Capacity min: 5 max: 10 average: 7.46154 5x Hector Trelane (5) Tremere (group 4) 4x Malgorzata (9) priscus Tremere antitribu (group 4) 2x Lucas Halton (10) prince Tremere (group 3) 2x Paul Cordwood (8) bishop Tremere antitribu (group 4) Library [90 cards] Action [5] 4x Govern the Unaligned 1x Rutor's Hand Action Modifier [10] 2x Conditioning 2x Foreshadowing Destruction 6x Mirror Walk Combat [30] 7x Apportation 3x Drain Essence 3x Read Intentions 4x Rego Motus 6x Theft of Vitae 7x Walk of Flame Equipment [4] 1x Bowl of Convergence 1x Hawg 1x Palatial Estate 1x Ruins of Ceoris Master [19] 1x Academic Hunting Ground 1x Channel 10 1x KRCG News Radio 4x Minion Tap 1x Mob Connections 1x Powerbase: Chicago 1x Rack, The 1x Rumor Mill, Tabloid Newspaper, The 1x University Hunting Ground 6x Vessel 1x WMRH Talk Radio Reaction [22] 4x Deflection 4x Enhanced Senses 1x Forced Awakening 4x On the Qui Vive 6x Spirit's Touch 2x Telepathic Misdirection 1x Wake with Evening's Freshness Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Wed Aug 08 11:11:24 2012] UDHR18/19/27

mirddes

if i can get a few eyes of argus id do this, however without them id do the later variation. thoughts on all of these woudl be greatly appreciated. Deck Name : thatre Author : Mirdea Description : Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 5 max: 9 average: 7.16667 4x Malgorzata (9) priscus Tremere antitribu (group 4) 4x Hector Trelane (5) Tremere (group 4) 2x Aidan Lyle (7) Tremere (group 5) 1x Paul Cordwood (8) bishop Tremere antitribu (group 4) 1x Uta Kovacs (8) Tremere antitribu (group 4) Library [90 cards] Action [6] 4x Govern the Unaligned 2x Rutor's Hand Action Modifier [10] 2x Conditioning 2x Foreshadowing Destruction 6x Mirror Walk Combat [30] 7x Apportation 3x Drain Essence 3x Read Intentions 3x Rego Motus 6x Theft of Vitae 8x Walk of Flame Equipment [5] 1x Bowl of Convergence 2x Hawg 1x Palatial Estate 1x Ruins of Ceoris Master [18] 1x Academic Hunting Ground 1x Channel 10 1x KRCG News Radio 3x Minion Tap 1x Mob Connections 1x Powerbase: Chicago 1x Rack, The 1x Rumor Mill, Tabloid Newspaper, The 1x University Hunting Ground 6x Vessel 1x WMRH Talk Radio Reaction [21] 4x Deflection 3x Enhanced Senses 3x Eyes of Argus 1x Forced Awakening 4x On the Qui Vive 4x Spirit's Touch 2x Telepathic Misdirection Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Thu Aug 09 00:51:15 2012] OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR Deck Name : thatre Author : Mirdea Description : Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 5 max: 9 average: 7.16667 4x Malgorzata (9) priscus Tremere antitribu (group 4) 4x Hector Trelane (5) Tremere (group 4) 2x Aidan Lyle (7) Tremere (group 5) 1x Paul Cordwood (8) bishop Tremere antitribu (group 4) 1x Uta Kovacs (8) Tremere antitribu (group 4) Library [90 cards] Action [6] 4x Govern the Unaligned 2x Rutor's Hand Action Modifier [10] 2x Conditioning 2x Foreshadowing Destruction 6x Mirror Walk Combat [30] 7x Apportation 3x Drain Essence 3x Read Intentions 3x Rego Motus 6x Theft of Vitae 8x Walk of Flame Equipment [5] 1x Bowl of Convergence 2x Hawg 1x Palatial Estate 1x Ruins of Ceoris Master [19] 1x Academic Hunting Ground 1x Channel 10 1x Effective Management 1x KRCG News Radio 3x Minion Tap 1x Mob Connections 1x Powerbase: Chicago 1x Rack, The 1x Rumor Mill, Tabloid Newspaper, The 1x University Hunting Ground 6x Vessel 1x WMRH Talk Radio Reaction [20] 4x Deflection 4x Enhanced Senses 1x Forced Awakening 4x On the Qui Vive 5x Spirit's Touch 2x Telepathic Misdirection Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Thu Aug 09 00:57:48 2012] UDHR18/19/27

Klaital

I think the main problem with the decks really is the combat, you have lots of second round stuff, but not really that many ways to get there, which means that apart from Hector, none of your guys can use it well. I think you would do much better if you would just ditch the second round stuff (and Hector who really isn't that good). Or then you could try to make a deck that really focuses on Hector, for like I don't know, rush and hit people with agg and graverob them or something. But whatever way to go, you need to focus the deck some, as now your trying to do too many things and because of that the deck is like all over the place.

mirddes

aidan lyle gets free press, ash harrison gets 1R agg each round, if the range is long. i could put my 2 grave robbings back in i suppose. Deck Name : thatre Author : Mirdea Description : Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 5 max: 9 average: 6.83333 5x Hector Trelane (5) Tremere (group 4) 3x Malgorzata (9) priscus Tremere antitribu (group 4) 1x Paul Cordwood (8) bishop Tremere antitribu (group 4) 1x Uta Kovacs (8) Tremere antitribu (group 4) 1x Aidan Lyle (7) Tremere (group 5) 1x Ash Harrison (7) Tremere antitribu (group 5) Library [90 cards] Action [8] 4x Govern the Unaligned 2x Rutor's Hand 2x Graverobbing Action Modifier [8] 2x Conditioning 6x Mirror Walk Combat [30] 12x Apportation 4x Rego Motus 8x Theft of Vitae 6x Walk of Flame Equipment [6] 1x helicopter 1x Bowl of Convergence 2x Hawg 1x Palatial Estate 1x Ruins of Ceoris Master [18] 1x Academic Hunting Ground 1x Channel 10 3x Effective Management 1x KRCG News Radio 1x Mob Connections 1x Powerbase: Chicago 1x Rack, The 1x Rumor Mill, Tabloid Newspaper, The 1x University Hunting Ground 6x Vessel 1x WMRH Talk Radio Reaction [20] 4x Deflection 4x Enhanced Senses 1x Forced Awakening 4x On the Qui Vive 5x Spirit's Touch 2x Telepathic Misdirection Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Thu Aug 09 11:37:09 2012] UDHR18/19/27

Randy

Hello, I'm Swedish... Deck Name : Thatre Author : Randyman inspired by Mirdea Description : Perhaps removeing some cards to fit in a target vitals or two... Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 5 max: 9 average: 7 4x Hector Trelane 5 AUS THA dom nec Tremere:4 3x Malgorzata 9 AUS DOM THA VIC pre priscus !Tremere:4 3x Ash Harrison 7 AUS THA cel dom !Tremere:5 1x Paul Cordwood 8 AUS DOM THA obf pre bishop !Tremere:4 1x Uta Kovacs 8 AUS DOM THA ser !Tremere:4 Library [60 cards] Action [11] 1x Aranthebes, The Immortal 6x Govern the Unaligned 1x Graverobbing 2x Magic of the Smith 1x Rutor's Hand Action Modifier [9] 3x Conditioning 1x Foreshadowing Destruction 5x Mirror Walk Combat [15] 7x Apportation 5x Flames of the Netherworld 1x Read Intentions 2x Rego Motus Equipment [4] 1x Bowl of Convergence 1x Heart of Nizchetus 1x Ivory Bow 1x Ruins of Ceoris Master [10] 4x Blood Doll 1x Coven, The 3x Dreams of the Sphinx 1x Pentex(TM) Subversion 1x Rotschreck Reaction [11] 2x Deflection 3x Eyes of Argus 1x My Enemy's Enemy 2x On the Qui Vive 3x Telepathic Misdirection Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Thu Aug 09 10:20:59 2012] Prince of Lidingö

Pascal Bertrand

> Randy wrote: > Hello, I'm Swedish... > > Deck Name : Thatre > Author : Randyman inspired by Mirdea > Description : Perhaps removeing some cards to fit in a target vitals or two... > > Library [60 cards] > Swedes ...

Ohlmann

No Thaumaturgic experiment ? It's godly on Ash Harrison, and very good on most other cases. And it's not unique, meaning you can have Ruin of Ceoris on of your toon and Biothaumaturgic on another.

Lönkka

> Randy wrote: > Hello, I'm Swedish... > Heh, this is starting to sound like an AA meeting... Finnish Politics!

mirddes

Reaction [23] 3x Deflection 3x Enhanced Senses 2x On the Qui Vive 2x Spirit's Touch 3x Telepathic Misdirection 3x Eyes of Argus 4x Precognition 3x Forced Awakening UDHR18/19/27

tarantulus

Shotgun Ritual perhaps?

mirddes

Deck Name : Author : Description : Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 5 max: 8 average: 6.5 4x Uta Kovacs (8) Tremere antitribu (group 4) 3x Ash Harrison (7) Tremere antitribu (group 5) 3x Carmen (5) Tremere antitribu (group 5) 2x Hector Trelane (5) Tremere (group 4) Library [90 cards] Action [10] 7x Harass 3x Rutor's Hand Combat [44] 10x Apportation 5x Drain Essence 5x Flames of the Netherworld 7x Rego Motus 7x Shotgun Ritual 10x Walk of Flame Equipment [9] 1x Bowl of Convergence 1x Flak Jacket 2x Helicopter 2x IR Goggles 1x Kevlar Vest 1x Leather Jacket 1x Ruins of Ceoris Master [11] 1x Channel 10 3x Corporal Reservoir 3x Guardian Angel 1x KRCG News Radio 1x London Evening Star, Tabloid Newspaper 1x Rumor Mill, Tabloid Newspaper, The 1x WMRH Talk Radio Reaction [16] 4x Enhanced Senses 4x Eyes of Argus 4x On the Qui Vive 4x Telepathic Misdirection Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Sun Sep 02 00:24:48 2012] UDHR18/19/27

Kiddo

If you are going to base your deck around Uta, then you really should play with cards that she would get most mileage from, like Blood Fury, Blood to Water (the only non-first round card you really need), Soul Burn and Serenading the Kami.A splash of, perhaps, Skin of the Chameleon and a couple of Walk of Flames is all you need. First of all, you don't own any Shotgun Rituals, right? Perhaps even better, because that is actually quite a crappy card... Secondly, main problem of Drain Essence is that it does not, under any circumstances, send opposing vampires to torpor. I've had quite successful deck based on Uta, but it was geared towards close combat, unpreventable by fortitude...in your module, if you don't have Shotgun Ritual in hand, you can't use 15 combat cards, and if you aren't on long range, you can't use further 5. Also, what you can't but should be able to do, is get around S:CE, playing one of the following cards: Telepathic Tracking, Thoughts Betrayed. You don't need that many enter combat cards, since this is Uta's innate ability... There are also several issues you have to deal with and, since it is a !Tremere deck, you have almost unique solutions to those issues: a)means to get precisely the THA card you need at any time - Spirit Summoning Chamber and b)way to deal with a vampire once you do manage to torporise it - Nephandus. Should you opt for such an angle, you really should tweak your crypt to include Antonio (to get mages) and have all other vamps have increased strength - one copy of Depravity and several copies of Biothaumaturgical Experiments are a norm. also, Frondator is also excellent - she can both rescue your vamps cheaply or can rescue famed opponents to be torporized again. While we're on the subject - where is at least a single Fame? Lastly, i really think your intercept angle in form of all those masters is both unneeded and way to costly - if you think you need to intercept anything, use your AUS and conserve your pool.