Player A bleeds, his prey doesn't block, player A plays Trochomancy, his prey bounces bleed - whose ash heap you remove cards from, your original target or your current?
Trochomancy
Type: Action Modifier
Requires: Auspex & Necromancy
[nec] Remove 13 cards in the target Methuselah's ash heap from the game to get +1 bleed. Not usable if there aren't enough cards in that ash heap. You cannot play another action modifier to increase this bleed.
[aus][nec] As [nec] above, but remove only 7 cards.
[AUS][NEC] As [aus][nec] above, but for +2 bleed
you remove the cards as a part of the cost of paying for trochomancy, which in your example means they are removed from the target before deflection is played.
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Action modifiers are resolved as played.
A plays Trochomancy, apply full effect (Remove 13 or 7 cards from the target to gain +1 or +2 bleed). A passes (assuming A has no other action modifier to play). Then B may play Deflection.
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> Reyda wrote:
> you remove the cards as a part of the cost of paying for trochomancy, which in your example means they are removed from the target before deflection is played.
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Correct.
All supporting wider use of Kindred Spirits with Trochomancy. It's pure win when you play either of the two vampires that can do it as-influenced!
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OK, maybe not, though I might drop one Night moves into a deck that already uses Trochomancy and has some [obf]
> TryDeflectingThisGrapple wrote:
> All supporting wider use of Kindred Spirits with Trochomancy. It's pure win when you play either of the two vampires that can do it as-influenced!
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Cat Burglary.
Alcoan, Harbinger of Skulls, Gr 6, Cap 7
Discipline: for AUS CEL NEC
Sabbat: When Alcoan is in combat with an ally or younger vampire, you may look at the opposing minion's controller's hand before range is determined on the first round.
Team up with:
Asguresh, Nagaraja, Gr 5, Cap 6
Discipline: aus CEL NEC
Independent: Once each combat, Asguresh may cancel a combat card played by the opposing minion as it is played (no cost is paid). Scarce.
> Ohlmann wrote:
> Car burglary, when you don't need to trochomancy the heck out of another deck cross table, is pretty bad.
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In other news: Pope still Catholic bears still pooping in woods water still wet
> jamesatzephyr wrote:
> Alcoan, Harbinger of Skulls, Gr 6, Cap 7
> Discipline: for AUS CEL NEC
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> Team up with:
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> Asguresh, Nagaraja, Gr 5, Cap 6
> Discipline: aus CEL NEC
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Must resist building the Cat Burgle + Trocho / Lightning Reflexes + Mercy for Seth bruise-bleed deck.
You blocked my crosstable bleed? Take 6 damage......tomorrow!!!!
> Ankha wrote:
> Action modifiers are resolved as played.
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Indeed.
One tactic with Trochomancy is to have it bounced so you can play Trochomancy against the new target of the bleed (or mainly her asheap).
Finnish Politics!
> Lönkka wrote:
> One tactic with Trochomancy is to have it bounced so you can play Trochomancy against the new target of the bleed (or mainly her asheap).
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"Can you bounce me on him so I can play Trochomancy?
-Not now.
-OK, bleed you for 42 "