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Drawing vs Sniper

9 messages from 8 participants · 02 May 2012 · vekn.net/forum
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Malachy

Heys! I'm wondering how does Drawing Out The Beast interact with Sniper Rifle if the minion with Sniper is blocking? Is Sniper used before combat begins or Drawing cancels its setting the range effect? Sniper Rifle [Equipment] Equipment [2 Pool] Weapon, gun. 2R damage each strike. Only usable at long range. If the bearer blocks an action, he or she may, before range is determined, set the range for the first round of the resulting combat to long; if he or she does so, skip the determine range step that round, and the bearer's initial strike that round must be with this weapon. Drawing Out the Beast [Combat] Combat [Animalism] Animalism Only usable before range is determined on the first round. Frenzy. [ani] During this combat, opposing vampire gets +1 strength, but he or she cannot use maneuvers to maneuver to long range, cannot use presses to end combat and cannot use equipment. A vampire may play only one Drawing Out the Beast each combat. [ANI] As above, and the opposing vampire takes 1 unpreventable damage during the press step each round. NC of Hungary ///

Jussi

Normal rules about who goes first apply here: Acting minion goes first, so it can play DotB before minion with Sniper Rifle can set range. Since DotB denies use of equipment, minion with Sniper Rifle can't set range because SR can't be used. ---- Banging trashcans, breaking windows We'll wake you up tonight We like the good time, we scream and shout And that's what fun's about

Chaitan

Acting minion get first chance to use an effect. Acting minion will play Drawing out the Beast first before range and before blocking minion can set range. LSJ answer

jhattara

But if for some weird reason the acting minion decides to play Drawing Out the Beast after the Sniper Rifle's special is used, the range is set long, but the minion wielding the Sniper Rifle cannot strike in the initial strike phase. Jussi Hattara Webmaster Extraordinaire Finnish Politics!

Reyda

the wierd reason would be : acting minion has a sewer lid in hand and/or does not want to be hit by hands for two Imagination is our only weapon in the war against reality -Jules de Gaultier

Pascal Bertrand

Correct answers from Jussi and jhattara.

Hakuron

Side question: Can I play a "set range" effect (not granted by an equipment) after DotB? For example "Selective Silence" on ? > > Selective Silence > > Only usable on the first round of combat. > Maneuver. > Only usable before range is determined. This vampire burns 1 blood to set the range for this round. Skip the determine range step this round. > Thanks in advance! National Coordinator Germany nc [dot] germany [at] magenta [dot] de

Ohlmann

Is there something in DotB that prevent you setting the range or playing the card ? No. So, as long as it is before the determine range step, you can play selective silence. What you cannot do is use Selective silence after the ability of a Sniper rifle (or any other set range effect) have been played.

Pascal Bertrand

> Ohlmann wrote: > Is there something in DotB that prevent you setting the range or playing the card ? No. So, as long as it is before the determine range step, you can play selective silence. > Correct. > Ohlmann wrote: > What you cannot do is use Selective silence after the ability of a Sniper rifle (or any other set range effect) have been played. > Correct.