[Quizz] Which card...

- has an action background while not being an action? (in one set, reprint is correct) Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Fae contortion, LoB Isak Esbjörnsson Bjärmark

> Forhead wrote: > Fae contortion, LoB > Congrats! It's not easily noticable (unlike Shaal Fragment) until you see the HttB printing. Now, which keyword has never been used on a card, though it was implemented approximatively on 1 card? Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Im not entirely sure what you're asking about. But Im guessing 'Moon sigil' from the card New Moon Sigil? Isak Esbjörnsson Bjärmark

> Forhead wrote: > Im not entirely sure what you're asking about. But Im guessing 'Moon sigil' from the card New Moon Sigil? > No, "Moon sigil" is printed on the card (and is used by New Moon Sigil). I'm taking about a functional keyword that has existed, but has never been used. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Okay, thanks for clearing that up! Isak Esbjörnsson Bjärmark

Nod Fragment? Printed on Shaal Fragment, but does strictly nothing.

> Non-existant user wrote: > Nod Fragment? Printed on Shaal Fragment, but does strictly nothing. > No, we're looking for a keyword that has never been printed. It exists though (hint: in the rulebook). Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

> Ankha wrote: > > > Forhead wrote: > > Fae contortion, LoB > > > Congrats! It's not easily noticable (unlike Shaal Fragment) until you see the HttB printing. > > Now, which keyword has never been used on a card, though it was implemented approximatively on 1 card? > Untap phase cards/untap cards? Conviction are identified as thus. Or maybe even a theoretical influence card? Though I presume that's what crypt cards are. Adam Esbjörnsson, Prince of Örebro

"Paralyze" was once printed and in the rulebook, but isn't around anymore. "Ante", "Draft" are in the rules, but are not usable in tournaments. "Impulse" (/Sequencing) is in the rules, but not on any card. "Base" and "unmerged" are on Epiphany.

> Pascal wrote: > "Paralyze" was once printed and in the rulebook, but isn't around anymore. > This is more like it, but Paralyze was printed on a card (Rowan Ring, and Stake) Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

"Wounded" is on two cards (Undying Tenacitym Undead Persistence) "Withdraw" (or other similar words) is on one card (Brinksmanship)

> Pascal wrote: > "Wounded" is on two cards (Undying Tenacitym Undead Persistence) > "Withdraw" (or other similar words) is on one card (Brinksmanship) > We're looking for a term that was *never printed* on a card (but that exists in a rulebook). Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Hint: the keyword (two words in fact) appear in the Jyhad rulebook, but has never been used (and was dropped afterwards). Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Was there also a sort of paralyzed region as well? Overkill is highly underrated. You know, like in computor games and such.

> agzocgud wrote: > Was there also a sort of paralyzed region as well? > No, the vampire was sent to torpor Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

"Close Quarters: During the remainder of the combat there is no long range."

> Haze wrote: > "Close Quarters: During the remainder of the combat there is no long range." > That's it! Immortal Grapple being the card that vaguely mimic this effect. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

> Ankha wrote: > > > Haze wrote: > > "Close Quarters: During the remainder of the combat there is no long range." > > > That's it! Immortal Grapple being the card that vaguely mimic this effect. > No, it can't possibly be Close Quarters. The question was: > > Now, which keyword has never been used on a card, though it was implemented approximatively on 1 card? > And Close Quarters was also approximated on Jyhad printing Storm Sewers. So that's two cards.

> jamesatzephyr wrote: > > > Ankha wrote: > > > > > Haze wrote: > > > "Close Quarters: During the remainder of the combat there is no long range." > > > > > That's it! Immortal Grapple being the card that vaguely mimic this effect. > > > No, it can't possibly be Close Quarters. The question was: > > > > Now, which keyword has never been used on a card, though it was implemented approximatively on 1 card? > > > And Close Quarters was also approximated on Jyhad printing Storm Sewers. So that's two cards. > Good catch But then, Immortal Grapple didn't exist in Jyhad. So it's 1 card, but the right card is Storm Sewers. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

> Ankha wrote: > But then, Immortal Grapple didn't exist in Jyhad. So it's 1 card, but the right card is Storm Sewers. > Put down the crack pipe and back away from the computer. Come out with your hands up. vtes.pl/card/38863

> jamesatzephyr wrote: > > > Ankha wrote: > > But then, Immortal Grapple didn't exist in Jyhad. So it's 1 card, but the right card is Storm Sewers. > > > Put down the crack pipe and back away from the computer. Come out with your hands up. > > vtes.pl/card/38863 > Flying penguins over there! <escape> Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Lets try again. Say 5 traits (there might be more) some vampires can have printed on card but vampires in play can't gain them by any means during gameplay. Specific city titles doesn't count.

> Surreal wrote: > Lets try again. Say 5 traits (there might be more) some vampires can have printed on card but vampires in play can't gain them by any means during gameplay. Specific city titles doesn't count. > Cold iron vulnerability. Scarce. Non-unique. Blood Cursed. Worshipper of chocolate. (can't find that fifth one, can't be Sterile) Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

> Ankha wrote: > > > Surreal wrote: > > Lets try again. Say 5 traits (there might be more) some vampires can have printed on card but vampires in play can't gain them by any means during gameplay. Specific city titles doesn't count. > > > Cold iron vulnerability. Scarce. Non-unique. Blood Cursed. Worshipper of chocolate. (can't find that fifth one, can't be Sterile) > 2 missing if I didn't miss any card.

Blood brother circles? Of course it gets much easier if each circle counts as its own trait

> Non-existant user wrote: > Blood brother circles? Of course it gets much easier if each circle counts as its own trait > Oh yea those too . But not sure what is considered a trait because rulebook doesn't use that term. EDIT Like is Camarilla a trait?

Base, Advanced, and eventually Merged, depending on how you think of it. Caitiff (debatable).

Slave?

> Shard wrote: > Slave? > Reindoctrination

Right, how about Inner Circle?

> Shard wrote: > Right, how about Inner Circle? > Correct, one more.

Inner Circle

Funny, but i think it is a simple Bishop. I do not now any way to turn someone bishop???

> Pendargon wrote: > Funny, but i think it is a simple Bishop. I do not now any way to turn someone bishop??? > Tobias Smith can make your vampires bishops.

> Klaital wrote: > > > Pendargon wrote: > > Funny, but i think it is a simple Bishop. I do not now any way to turn someone bishop??? > > > Tobias Smith can make your vampires bishops. > Oh man, it was bishop but I totally missed that guy. Shouldn't just look library cards.

Independent titles of one or two votes? There are ways two get votes but they are not titles.

Something weird this time. Say max 5 card combo how you can steal Luc with Blanche Hill. You have to control Luc permanently. Luc and Blanche has full blood. Max time to do this is 2 minion phases. EDIT Also Luc is untapped and you can't use master cards

> Surreal wrote: > Something weird this time. Say max 5 card combo how you can steal Luc with Blanche Hill. You have to control Luc permanently. Luc and Blanche has full blood. Max time to do this is 2 minion phases. > > EDIT Also Luc is untapped > Can we use masters? "Oh, to the Hades with the manners! He's a complete bastard, and calling him that insults bastards everywhere!" -Nalia De-Arnise garourimgazette.wordpress.com/ www.vekn.net/forum-guidelines

> Kraus wrote: > > > Surreal wrote: > > Something weird this time. Say max 5 card combo how you can steal Luc with Blanche Hill. You have to control Luc permanently. Luc and Blanche has full blood. Max time to do this is 2 minion phases. > > > > EDIT Also Luc is untapped > > > Can we use masters? > Nope. Almost made it one minion phase but not completely sure of one rule thing.

Equip Blanche with Sargon Fragment. Block Luc. Vitae Block. Hand Strike with Target Vitals. Amaranth. Demonic Possession. "Oh, to the Hades with the manners! He's a complete bastard, and calling him that insults bastards everywhere!" -Nalia De-Arnise garourimgazette.wordpress.com/ www.vekn.net/forum-guidelines

> Kraus wrote: > Equip Blanche with Sargon Fragment. > Block Luc. > Vitae Block. > Hand Strike with Target Vitals. > Amaranth. > Demonic Possession. > Cool that works. Lets say you can't rely other player to do anything (like blocking). All effects come from your play.

> Surreal wrote: > > > Kraus wrote: > > Equip Blanche with Sargon Fragment. > > Block Luc. > > Vitae Block. > > Hand Strike with Target Vitals. > > Amaranth. > > Demonic Possession. > > > Cool that works. Lets say you can't rely other player to do anything (like blocking). All effects come from your play. > Oh dear... I bet this has something to do with The Ailing Spirit. I'll ponder this over night. Someone else, have a go in the mean time. "Oh, to the Hades with the manners! He's a complete bastard, and calling him that insults bastards everywhere!" -Nalia De-Arnise garourimgazette.wordpress.com/ www.vekn.net/forum-guidelines

Should I start thinking about what Clan Impersonation + Ailing Spirit would mean?

> Pascal wrote: > Caitiff (debatable). > I can't think of a way for a random crypt vampire to become Caitiff, but the trait can be gained by a vampire it wasn't printed on: any created vampire who is 'the same clan' as an acting Caitiff.

if Luc was just influenced out... Go Anarch, Fee Stake: Perth, Freak Drive, Chameleon that's probably not the right answer

turn 1 banishment turn 2 go anarch fee stake xx freak drive chameleon

There seems to be many right answers. Not surprised by that. EDIT Shard got it right. Lets try again with different terms. Say max 5 card combo how you can steal Luc with Blanche Hill. You have to control Luc permanently. Luc has 2 blood and Blanche has 3 blood. Max time to do this is 2 minion phases. Also Luc is untapped and you can't use master cards. You can't rely other player to do anything. All effects come from your play.

turn 1 seal of veddartha freak drive ailing spirit bums rush breath of the dragon turn 2 graverobbing Is the best I can do without masters.

> jamesatzephyr wrote: > > > Pascal wrote: > > Caitiff (debatable). > > > I can't think of a way for a random crypt vampire to become Caitiff, but the trait can be gained by a vampire it wasn't printed on: any created vampire who is 'the same clan' as an acting Caitiff. > Well, the question is "What happens if you play Revelations of the Sire on your Caitiff, and someone gains control of it (Graverobbing, ...) and plays Shadow of Taint on Revelations of the Sire?" (or, but that came later, what happens if a former Caitiff's Clan Impersonation burns ?)

> Pascal wrote: > Well, the question is "What happens if you play Revelations of the Sire on your Caitiff, and someone gains control of it (Graverobbing, ...) and plays Shadow of Taint on Revelations of the Sire?" > > (or, but that came later, what happens if a former Caitiff's Clan Impersonation burns ?) > A former Caitiff burning a Clan Impersonation makes you Caitiff (and Camarilla). [LSJ 20081204] > > LSJ wrote: > > Malvalvis (caitiff) Clan Impersonates a Salubri, becoming > > Independent. Later, she burns the Clan Impersonation, becoming > > Caitiff again. > ... > > does she remain independent? > > No. She becomes Camarilla. Changing to Caitiff is handled the same as changing > to a clan. >

Thanks, that's what I had in mind when I said "debatable", as some vampires in play (given that some set up has been done) can become Caitiff.