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What means Engling Fury?

12 messages from 8 participants · 04 March 2012 – 31 March 2012 · vekn.net/forum
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Joscha

Topic says it all. I couldn't find it in the dictionary (engling, not fury ). Baron of Frankfurt

Klaital

Its the Spiritus level 4 power from the rpg, in that you basically drain the essence of animal spirits to regain willpower. Engling iirc was a type of spirit in the WoD rpg.

Lemminkäinen

It might also come from the word engle (to cajole, to coax) so it would be "coaxing fury".

Joscha

> Lemminkäinen wrote: > It might also come from the word engle (to cajole, to coax) so it would be "coaxing fury". > Thank you guys. Lemmi, you wrote "might". Maybe a native speaker can confirm that translation? Baron of Frankfurt

Squidalot

I'll ask Laurie as he might have a proper OED lying around. I get the feeling though Joscha that the word might have Germanic roots?

Lemminkäinen

> Joscha wrote: > > > Lemminkäinen wrote: > > It might also come from the word engle (to cajole, to coax) so it would be "coaxing fury". > > > Thank you guys. Lemmi, you wrote "might". Maybe a native speaker can confirm that translation? > Well, "engling" is certainly a possible form of the word "engle" but that doesn't rule out the possibility of Klaital's explanation, for example, being right (if there indeed was spirits called englings in the oWoD, I can't remember).

Joscha

> Squidalot wrote: > I'll ask Laurie as he might have a proper OED lying around. > > I get the feeling though Joscha that the word might have Germanic roots? > Hm, if that was the case it could come from the word "Engel", angel. That rather would be "Angel's Fury". Should it be an adjective? In German that rather would be "englig" (just like "eklig", disgusting or "lustig", funny). But there is nothing like "englig" in German, you would rather use "engelsgleich", angelic. So I don't know, why they called it "engling". Maybe the designer of the card is a user of this forum too? And I thought this would be an easy one . Baron of Frankfurt

Squidalot

mm Laurie's German Black Library editor says: As in Engling Fury? According to our German editor, Engel is obviously 'angel', so in a fantastical sense it could be that. It also could come from 'eng', meaning "thin" or "narrowly". An Engling could be a term for a faerie-type creature which is thin or weak So we're no more useful for you sorry

Ankha

Well, if you spell "engling" backwards, you get "gnilgne". "gn" being pronounced "ni" in french, you get "niilnie" which is obviously a scandinavian term for "nothing/never". Being written backwards, you have to reverse the meaning, leading to engling = everything right now (2 blood and untap). Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

AaronC

From Werewolf the Apocalypse Second Edition, p. 301 (wta-pastdue.livejournal.com/644.html): "Englings, Jagglings of Gaia, are spirits of Gnosis that Garou hunt during moots. Once caught, the Engling is thanked for giving itself to strengthen the Garou. If the ceremony is performed properly, the participants regain all their Gnosis." I imagine this must be a made-up term of the WtA RPG. It looks like Ahrimanes with Level 4 Spiritus can hunt Engling spirits like Werewolves do, regaining Willpower instead of Gnosis.

Lönkka

Gnosis, for those who aren't familiar with Werewolf terminology, could be summed as the spiritual might, similar to mana or chi. whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Gnosis_%28WTA%29 Finnish Politics!

Lost_Heretic

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