Congratulations to Peter Bouwman for winning the Belgian National Championship.
TWD will follow as soon as we receive it.
2011 Belgian National Championship
Brussels Outpost Gamestore
13-3-2011
30 players
Peter Bouwman
Decklist <- on the way
More tournament stories, reports and pictures will come.
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2011 Belgian National Championship
Brussels Outpost Gamestore
March 13, 2011
30 players
Peter Bouwman's Tournament Winning Deck
Deck Name: Freaky Politicians
Author: Peter Bouwman
Description:
An old skool Ventrue deck focussing on putting blood on uncontrolled
vampires or use those cards to bleed heavily. Older versions had more
freak drives. Thats were the name came from. This deck won the 2011
Belgian National Championship on March 13, 2011 in the Outpost Gamestore
in Brussels.
Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=3 max=8 avg=5.92)
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1x Courtland Leighton 4 dom for pre Ventrue:1
2x Emerson Bridges 8 pot DOM FOR PRE Ventrue:1
1x Gideon Fontaine 3 PRE Ventrue:1
1x Jazz Wentworth 5 dom for PRE Ventrue:1
1x Luccia Paciola 6 for pre DOM Ventrue:1
1x Ranjan Rishi, Camarilla Scholar 5 for DOM PRE Ventrue:2
2x Sir Walter Nash 7 DOM FOR PRE Ventrue:1
2x Timothy Crowley 7 ani dom FOR PRE Ventrue:1
1x Violette Prentiss 4 dom PRE Ventrue:1
Library (88 cards)
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Master (12)
2x Anarch Troublemaker
1x Barrens, The
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Island of Yiaros
2x Life in the City
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
2x Ventrue Headquarters
1x Villein
Action (18)
4x Enchant Kindred
2x Entrancement
4x Fourth Tradition: The Accounting
4x Govern the Unaligned
4x Scouting Mission
Political Action (17)
4x Kine Resources Contested
1x Neonate Breach
7x Parity Shift
1x Praxis Seizure: Amsterdam
1x Praxis Seizure: Berlin
1x Praxis Seizure: Cairo
1x Praxis Seizure: Geneva
1x Ventrue Justicar
Action Modifier (25)
2x Awe
4x Bewitching Oration
5x Conditioning
5x Freak Drive
4x Seduction
5x Voter Captivation
Reaction (7)
7x Deflection
Combat (9)
5x Majesty
4x Soak
He is not the author of the deck. Why did you edited it?
The author is me Jeroen van Oort.
Original source
www.atfreeforum.com/vtesholland/viewtopic.php?t=577&start=30&mforum=vtesholland
Have a cold long night,
Jeroen van Oort
Dutch National Coördinator
For TWD the author is usually marked the same as the player. In description of the TWD there could be notes about the actual creator of the deck.
Jussi Hattara
Webmaster Extraordinaire
Finnish Politics!
> Oortje wrote:
> Why did you edited it?
>
I didn't edit it.
I copied it from Extrala's link to the Secret Library.
www.secretlibrary.info/index.php?deck=view&id=5689
In Secret Library the current policy for TWDs is to mark the player as author. If the actual author of the deck is another person, mentioning in the deck's description is encouraged.
Jussi Hattara
Webmaster Extraordinaire
Finnish Politics!
> jhattara wrote:
> In Secret Library the current policy for TWDs is to mark the player as author. If the actual author of the deck is another person, mentioning in the deck's description is encouraged.
>
I followed Ralf's guidelins for posting the deck on SL.
I'll add Jeroen as original author in the description.
Dennis
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It doesn't make sense. An author is somebody who writes things. In this case the player didn't write the deck, nor assembled the cards. There for the player is not the author, or visa versa.
Have a cold long night,
Jeroen van Oort
Dutch National Coördinator
I was asking Jussi (as administrator/creator for Secret Library) a while ago to separate author from player (i.e. adding an additional field), especially for the TWDs. But he refused on the grounds, that it is a rare case, that player and author are separate persons. So as of today SL only knows the field "author".
It can be changed in a future version of the Secret Library, but as long as I have work to do in here, I have absolutely no time to make code-level changes to the Secret Library, except for fixing critical errors.
And as for it making no sense: It makes sense if you think of it as TWD repository. Or would you ask the TWD to display the actual assembler of the deck, before the player of the deck? The player might not have written the actual deck, but he wrote the story that made it win.
Jussi Hattara
Webmaster Extraordinaire
Finnish Politics!
> jhattara wrote:
> And as for it making no sense: It makes sense if you think of it as TWD repository. Or would you ask the TWD to display the actual assembler of the deck, before the player of the deck? The player might not have written the actual deck, but he wrote the story that made it win.
>
If you use a deck that someone else designed and didn't change anything in it I do think that you aren't the author and you NEED to acknowledge the deck's original designer.
If you use someone else's design and tweak it it would be very polite to acknowldge the original designer. The less you change the deck, the more you need to mention the original designer.
For example, I think that people who have been using "Girls" deck have tended very often to acknowledge the original designers.
Finnish Politics!
Of course the original designer should be credited, but in TWDA the player goes before (and the designer should be mentioned in the Description field). No matter how good deck you play, the player himself plays a significant part in VTES.
I acknowledge that this is a design flaw in the Secret Library, but while there is only one field for the author, TWD should be credited to the player first.
Jussi Hattara
Webmaster Extraordinaire
Finnish Politics!
Thanks for the responds.
I agree with the fact that you should invest time in more important matters then this.
It's just strange that the deck list got changed since I posted it. Do you or extrala actually enter it in secret library after people post an text extraction of secret library?
Have a cold long night,
Jeroen van Oort
Dutch National Coördinator
> Oortje wrote:
> Thanks for the responds.
> I agree with the fact that you should invest time in more important matters then this.
> It's just strange that the deck list got changed since I posted it. Do you or extrala actually enter it in secret library after people post an text extraction of secret library?
>
I have posted your/peter's deck on SL, and changed the author-field from your name to the name of the tournament winner.
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> D-dennis wrote:
>
> > Oortje wrote:
> > Thanks for the responds.
> > I agree with the fact that you should invest time in more important matters then this.
> > It's just strange that the deck list got changed since I posted it. Do you or extrala actually enter it in secret library after people post an text extraction of secret library?
> >
> I have posted your/peter's deck on SL, and changed the author-field from your name to the name of the tournament winner.
>
You should change the deck's title into:
2011 Belgian National Championship: Freaky Politicians
Jussi Hattara
Webmaster Extraordinaire
Finnish Politics!