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Form of Mist vs Blissful Agony?

8 messages from 6 participants · 23 February 2012 – 24 February 2012 · vekn.net/forum
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bakija

So I'm in a fight vs a Salubri. My strike is Form of Mist at superior (SCE, continue at +1 stealth). My opponent's strike is Blissful Agony at superior (SCE, go fight someone else). What happens? Blissful Agony: [VAL] Strike: combat ends. Choose a minion controlled by a Methuselah other than the opposing vampire's controller. The opposing vampire enters combat with that minion. Form of Mist: [PRO] Strike: combat ends. If this vampire is acting -(and needs stealth when this strike resolves)-, he or she may burn 1 blood after combat ends to continue the action at +1 stealth as if unblocked. A vampire may play only one Form of Mist at superior each action.

henrik

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Klaital

The new combat from Blissful Agony interrupts the continue action from Form of Mist and the new combat starts.

bakija

> Klaital wrote: > The new combat from Blissful Agony interrupts the continue action from Form of Mist and the new combat starts. > Huh. Ok then. If you use the Dodge version of Form of Mist, do you get to avoid the new combat, as the Dodge generally saves you from the effects of your opponent's strike?

Adonai

> bakija wrote: > If you use the Dodge version of Form of Mist, do you get to avoid the new combat, as the Dodge generally saves you from the effects of your opponent's strike? > The new combat is avoided by any Dodge, yes. LSJ 10-20-2005 > > > I strike BA and my opponent strikes dodge... in some order. Does > > Blissfull Agony affect the dodger, or does it effect the combat, or > > does it effect me? Cause I mean... I'm getting out of the combat, and > > someone else is joining. Doesn't look like it effected the would be > > dodger at all... > > Entering combat with the minion falls in the "things that affect the > minion" category. > > Dodge protects the minion from that effect. > > > So in the case whenever any combat strike effect mentions to opposing > > minion, a dodge would protect them? > > The dodge protects him whether he's mentioned or not. > If he's not mentioned, though, there's little from which to protect > him. >

Zenedar

Sorry if I'm at fault for posting this here but how does Blissful Agony work with Psyche then? My opponent plays BA on VAL can I play Psyche! to start a new combat with him and disrupt the 'change target of combat mechanic' ?

Klaital

> Zenedar wrote: > Sorry if I'm at fault for posting this here but how does Blissful Agony work with Psyche then? My opponent plays BA on VAL can I play Psyche! to start a new combat with him and disrupt the 'change target of combat mechanic' ? > No you can't, if a new comba has already been queued (such as with blissful agony) you cannot play psyche! (or any other card that would do similar effect)

Pascal Bertrand

> Klaital wrote: > > > Zenedar wrote: > > Sorry if I'm at fault for posting this here but how does Blissful Agony work with Psyche then? My opponent plays BA on VAL can I play Psyche! to start a new combat with him and disrupt the 'change target of combat mechanic' ? > > > No you can't, if a new comba has already been queued (such as with blissful agony) you cannot play psyche! (or any other card that would do similar effect) > Correct. [LSJ 20070424]