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Una the unblockable

12 messages from 6 participants · 08 December 2011 · vekn.net/forum
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Steinar

Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 5 max: 9 average: 7.16667 4x Una 9 ANI FOR PRE PRO dem archbishop !Gangrel:3 2x Beckett 7 ANI FOR PRO cel Gangrel:3 2x Ryder 7 FOR PRO ani pot Gangrel:4 2x Harry Reese 6 FOR PRO cel obf !Gangrel:3 2x Mowgli 5 FOR PRO ani cel !Gangrel:4 Library [80 cards] Action [29] 7x Force of Will 8x Movement of the Slow Body 8x Rapid Healing 6x Restoration Action Modifier [12] 8x Day Operation 4x Earth Control Action Modifier / Reaction [4] 4x Touch of Clarity Action Modifier/Combat [4] 4x Rapid Change Combat [5] 5x Earth Meld Equipment [4] 4x Camera Phone Master [8] 2x Twisted Forest 6x Villein Reaction [14] 3x Eyes of the Beast 5x On the Qui Vive 3x Sonar 3x Steadfastness How do you intend to oust? unblockable bleeds How do you intend to keep from being ousted? bloat with villein/restoration, intercept What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)? Una and two others maybe. Haven't played it yet What do you want your average turn to look like? At least 1 unblockable bleed, followed by movement of the slow body and rapid healing. Restoration or bleed. The ideal turn: Villein on Una. Una plays restoration (gains 3 blood). Una plays force of will (free), and day operation (free). Una goes to torpor. Una plays movement of the slow body (gains 1 blood) and rapid healing (gains 1 blood). What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play? All kinds of decks. Little politics at the moment. A lot of intercept.

Kosmo_Kebab

why you dont play on minion taps?, if you want play villein multiple on one vampire, you lost few pool. You had only 8 masters, so i thing triflle its no such important.

Steinar

Because everyone else plays villein, and that makes minion taps expensive. Besides, all the other vampires in the crypt can also bloat. But thanks for the thought;P Villein Cardtype: Master Master: trifle. Put this card on a vampire you control and move 2 or more blood from that vampire to your pool. Minion Tap cards cost an additional pool. Villein costs an additional pool to play on this vampire.

Kosmo_Kebab

you dont know about new errata to villein? villein dont make minions taps more expensive any more:) Villein: Master: trifle. Put this card on a vampire you control and move 2 or more blood from that vampire to your pool. Minion Tap cards cost {you} an additional pool. Villein costs an additional pool to play on this vampire. vekn.net/index.php/forum/10-news-and-announcements/16769-rules-team-rulings-02-dec-11

Lech

Use Heart of the City for additional +2 bleed (if you don't fear archon investigation ofc). Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.

Steinar

> Kosmo_Kebab wrote: > you dont know about new errata to villein? villein dont make minions taps more expensive any more:) > > Villein: > Master: trifle. Put this card on a vampire you control and move 2 or more blood from that vampire to your pool. Minion Tap cards cost {you} an additional pool. Villein costs an additional pool to play on this vampire. > > vekn.net/index.php/forum/10-news-and-announcements/16769-rules-team-rulings-02-dec-11 > Oh, I didn't know that. based on this new knowledge, of course I will swap them for minion taps! I will also take heart of the city into consideration, maybe for one of the camera phones.

brandonsantacruz

FYI- The change to Villein doesn't take effect in tournaments until January 1, 2012. On the deck, I like the idea, but I'm concerned that you will get blocked at some point and diablarized. Maybe mix in a couple of daring the dawn and a change of target. Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one. -Friedrich Nietzsche brandonsantacruz.blogspot.com/

Steinar

That is my concern to. Thats why the stealth cards are put in. Stupid question; but I can stealth my way out of torpor right? I have played vtes for 10 years and dont remember lol

technobabble66

FWIW, i've played a vaguely similar deck (esp different crypt). It works well until u sit next to someone w +1 intercept to block ur exit from torpor, or +3 intercept for the 4 occasions you can play Earth Control. Or next to a prey w bounce. I luv the idea, but i couldn't get it to work satisfactorily Loki's gift might help Maybe put Humanitas & Catacombs onto one of the other minions, & use them to rescue first. If that gets blocked, you can try to have Una rescue herself, maybe Maybe use Two Wrongs & Narrow Minds to discourage the bouncers. Hope that helps!!

Ankha

> Steinar wrote: > That is my concern to. Thats why the stealth cards are put in. Stupid question; but I can stealth my way out of torpor right? I have played vtes for 10 years and dont remember lol > Yes, you can. Why not play with Horrific Countenance? It costs 4 blood, true, but is less dangerous (plus it works against allies). Horrific Countenance [DS:C2, Anarchs:PG] Cardtype: Action Modifier Cost: 4 blood Discipline: Protean Only usable when this vampire is blocked. [pro] Untap the blocking minion. This action is not blocked, and it is now unblockable. Artist: Pete Venters Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Steinar

Ok good:) I have thought about it. Maybe i'll mix a bit. The main idea though, was to be refilled with blood from restoration, MoTSB and rapid healing.

Steinar

This is a modified version of the deck, with some of the advices you gave. In addition I added Crimson Fury, in case Una or someone else is being diablerized. How does this look? Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 5 max: 9 average: 7.16667 4x Una 9 ANI FOR PRE PRO dem archbishop !Gangrel:3 2x Beckett 7 ANI FOR PRO cel Gangrel:3 2x Ryder 7 FOR PRO ani pot Gangrel:4 2x Harry Reese 6 FOR PRO cel obf !Gangrel:3 2x Mowgli 5 FOR PRO ani cel !Gangrel:4 Library [80 cards] Action [30] 7x Force of Will 1x Heart of the City 8x Movement of the Slow Body 8x Rapid Healing 6x Restoration Action Modifier [12] 8x Day Operation 4x Earth Control Action Modifier/Combat [4] 4x Rapid Change Combat [5] 5x Earth Meld Equipment [2] 2x Camera Phone Master [10] 2x Creepshow Casino 6x Minion Tap 2x Twisted Forest Reaction [13] 3x Eyes of the Beast 2x Falcon's Eye 4x On the Qui Vive 2x Sonar 2x Steadfastness Reaction/Combat [4] 4x Crimson Fury