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How to make a deck post look good

26 messages from 11 participants · 09 October 2011 – 04 February 2012 · vekn.net/forum
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Adonai

Step 1) Download ARDB 3.1.1 . (once) Step 2) Fix the deck2phpbb.xsl file. (once) Step 3) Enter the deck in ARDB, and use the Export deck to phpBB option. Step 4) Start a new thread in the Deck Clinic or the Event Reports and TWD section of the forum. Step 5) Paste in the text from your exported file. Use the Preview Pane Below button (below Bold/Italic) to see the results before you post. Step 6) Click on Submit. I also usually take a few additional steps. > Fix the 'group' label. To fit each vampire on one line and not have the table wrap those lines, I use Notepad's CTRL-H function to replace "group " with "g". > Check Imbued ability names with the preview to ensure that it is going to display the symbols correctly, replace "vis" i.e. Vision with VSN, and "jud" with JUS. I've attached the file for Step 2. Unzip the file to your ARDB main folder (in the same folder as the exe file) - {may need to put them in the XSL subdirectory instead, depends on OS and ARDB version installed}. Attachment ARDB-XSL-Files.zip not found {File was updated 2/4/12 with another fix from Ankha!} Or follow Ankha's steps to manually edit the file yourself. Here's an example deck with everything fixed up. Deck Name : Eye Prime Author : Lasombra Description : Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 11 average: 7.41667 4x Uriel (8) bishopSalubri antitribu(g4) 3x Dela Eden (8) Salubri antitribu(g3) 2x Saulot, The Wanderer (11) Salubri(g4) 2x Aredhel (5) Salubri antitribu(g4) 1x Anarch Convert (1)Caitiff(g0) Library [90 cards] Action [11] 2x Abbot 2x Renewed Vigor 7x Sense Death Action Modifier [7] 6x Freak Drive 1x Repulsion Ally [1] 1x Mylan Horseed (Goblin) Combat [29] 3x Armor of Vitality 6x Death Seeker 11x Eye of Unforgiving Heaven 4x Skin of Rock 5x Soak Equipment [4] 1x Bowl of Convergence 1x Codex of the Edenic Groundskeepers 1x Flak Jacket 1x Heart of Nizchetus Master [15] 2x Code of Samiel 2x Dreams of the Sphinx 2x Fame 1x Guardian Angel 4x Rotschreck 4x Villein Reaction [20] 4x Eyes of Argus 10x Hide the Heart 5x On the Qui Vive 1x Telepathic Misdirection Retainer [3] 1x J. S. Simmons, Esq. 1x Mr. Winthrop 1x Tasha Morgan Recorded with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Sun Oct 09 12:28:28 2011]

extrala

Alternatively 1. Enter the deck into Secret Library . 2. Use the Export as bbcode function (as shown on top of the decklist). 3. Paste the text on the next page into the forum post.

Boris The Blade

For comparison, here is an example of an unedited Secret Library output: Deck Name: Aire of Elation: Destructo Author: Description: Name of Event: Aire of Elation: The Prince's Anniversary Location: Paladin's Place, Darmstadt, Germany Date: 08 Oct 2011 Number of Players:16 Rounds: 2+F Winner: Erol Hammer Original Version had 15 Ashurs, 8 Liquidation and 3 Heroic Mights. I reduced the numbers and put some Villeins in. IMHO it helped a lot, regarding survivability. Always had enough combat cards and rushes. I would only try to add following things, another Monster, a Golconda, an additional Taste of Vitae. Dragonbound could be an option, who knows?!? Crypt (Capacity min=5 max=9 avg=7.92; 12 cards) ================================================== 1x Ellison Humboldt 9 pro ANI OBF POT PRE Nosferatu:3 1x Fish 5 pre ANI POT Guruhi:4 1x Gustaphe Brunnelle 8 obf ANI DOM POT Nosferatu:4 1x Lukas 8 pre ser ANI OBF POT !Nosferatu:4 4x Nana Buruku 8 ANI POT PRE Guruhi:4 3x Nangila Were 9 obf ser ANI POT PRE Guruhi:4 1x Sundown 6 obf pre ANI POT Nosferatu:3 Library (90 cards) ===================== Master (31 cards) 9x Ashur Tablets 1x Blood Doll 1x Carver's Meat Packing and Storage 1x Dreams of the Sphinx 1x Fame 1x Giant's Blood 1x Haven Uncovered 1x Jake Washington (Hunter) 1x Lilith's Blessing 6x Liquidation 1x Monster 1x Parthenon, The 1x Pentex(TM) Subversion 1x Powerbase: Luanda 4x Villein Event (1 cards) 1x Anthelios, The Red Star Action (16 cards) 4x Bum's Rush 6x Deep Song 5x Legal Manipulations 1x Well-Marked Combat (42 cards) 2x Burning Wrath 2x Canine Horde 7x Carrion Crows 3x Glancing Blow 9x Immortal Grapple 7x Slam 5x Taste of Vitae 7x Torn Signpost Created with Secret Library v0.9.3. (Oct 9, 2011 23:30:01)

drstrange26

I have seen the changes that you made here Adonai and can I get your permission to use the changes in the ARDB Beta? I will take a look at the == and shorting the group label as well. Thanks. The Master of the not-so Mystic Arts.

Adonai

Go for it. I didn't make the original changes, but I haven't been able to find the post that had it originally. It would be great if there was a download that resolved these extra steps.

Juggernaut1981

I get an error saying: Can't open XSL File: ((Location of ARDB))\xsl/deck2phpbb.xsl (timestamp) An error occured while saving (timestamp) I'm a bit too inept at this to be able to realise what is going on. Retired Baron of Sydney, Australia, 418

Adonai

> Juggernaut1981 wrote: > I get an error saying: > Can't open XSL File: ((Location of ARDB))\xsl/deck2phpbb.xsl (timestamp) > An error occured while saving (timestamp) > Did this happen before or after updating the file? There are 15 XSL files in my ARDB directory. I'll zip them up and email them to you. Unzip them into your ARDB directory (with ARDB closed), then open ARDB up and give the export another try.

Juggernaut1981

This came after I copied in the text you'd put into this thread. Retired Baron of Sydney, Australia, 418

CryWolf

> Juggernaut1981 wrote: > I get an error saying: > Can't open XSL File: ((Location of ARDB))\xsl/deck2phpbb.xsl (timestamp) > An error occured while saving (timestamp) > > I'm a bit too inept at this to be able to realise what is going on. > This is also happening to me. One reason could be that ARDB is processing a forward slash ("/") in that filename, instead of all backslashes. Dunno how to fix THAT though. Advocate of Good-looking Deck Posts pulledfangs.blogspot.com :vtes: Manila V:tES

Adonai

If you've ever upgraded, you may have XSL files in two locations. The one I edit is in the same folder as the ARDB exe file. I have a second XSL folder, that has another copy of it. Probably want to make sure you have both.

drstrange26

Just a quick note that I have replicated this problem as well. Adonai is correct and move files to both areas. In the parent ARDB directory and the /xsl directory. May Wong never enter your back door, Dr. Strange

Juggernaut1981

I still get the same problem, even with duplicating the files in two locations. Retired Baron of Sydney, Australia, 418

CryWolf

I agree with Juggernaut. I still get the same error with a freshly downloaded copy, with XSLs in both locations. Here's an example from a fresh download, with no adjustments to the XSL file. Am I correct in saying that the only change is the tab stops for the crypt information? Deck Name : 12SR_Ven Author : CW Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 11 average: 7.16667 2x Emerson Bridges (8) prince Ventrue (g1) 2x Sir Walter Nash (7) prince Ventrue (g1) 1x Arika (11) inner circle Ventrue (g2) 1x Democritus (10) justicar Ventrue (g1) 1x Queen Anne (10) prince Ventrue (g2) 1x Timothy Crowley (7) prince Ventrue (g1) 1x Heather Florent, The Opportunist (6) Ventrue (g1) 1x Jazz Wentworth (5) Ventrue (g1) 1x Violette Prentiss (4) Ventrue (g1) 1x Gideon Fontaine (3) Ventrue (g1) Library [81 cards] Action [6] 1x Entrancement 3x Govern the Unaligned 2x Media Influence Action Modifier [19] 1x Awe 4x Bewitching Oration 1x Business Pressure 2x Disarming Presence 4x Freak Drive 2x Kiss of Ra, The 5x Voter Captivation Combat [16] 8x Majesty 8x Rolling with the Punches Master [12] 12x Sudden Reversal Political Action [16] 1x Banishment 3x Conservative Agitation 1x Disputed Territory 1x Domain Challenge 6x Kine Resources Contested 1x Neonate Breach 3x Parity Shift Reaction [12] 7x Deflection 1x Delaying Tactics 4x On the Qui Vive Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Tue Oct 11 11:43:39 2011] Advocate of Good-looking Deck Posts pulledfangs.blogspot.com :vtes: Manila V:tES

Adonai

Try Ankha's original solution, here: www.vekn.net/index.php/forum/17-site-a-forum-feedback/5700-preservation-of-formatting#6000

CryWolf

This is a sample entry using Ankha's solution, as proposed by Jeff. > EDIT: So it works ok, except in cases where the vamp's name is long, or s/he has lots of disciplines. (See Heather Florent and Arika below) > Deck Name : 12SR_Ven Author : CW Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 11 average: 7.16667 2x Emerson Bridges (8) princeVentrue(g1) 2x Sir Walter Nash (7) princeVentrue(g1) 1x Arika (11) inner circleVentrue(g2) 1x Democritus (10) justicarVentrue(g1) 1x Queen Anne (10) princeVentrue(g2) 1x Timothy Crowley (7) princeVentrue(g1) 1x Heather Florent, The Opportunist (6) Ventrue(g1) 1x Jazz Wentworth (5) Ventrue(g1) 1x Violette Prentiss (4) Ventrue(g1) 1x Gideon Fontaine (3)Ventrue(g1) Library [81 cards] Action [6] 1x Entrancement 3x Govern the Unaligned 2x Media Influence Action Modifier [19] 1x Awe 4x Bewitching Oration 1x Business Pressure 2x Disarming Presence 4x Freak Drive 2x Kiss of Ra, The 5x Voter Captivation Combat [16] 8x Majesty 8x Rolling with the Punches Master [12] 12x Sudden Reversal Political Action [16] 1x Banishment 3x Conservative Agitation 1x Disputed Territory 1x Domain Challenge 6x Kine Resources Contested 1x Neonate Breach 3x Parity Shift Reaction [12] 7x Deflection 1x Delaying Tactics 4x On the Qui Vive Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Tue Oct 11 15:08:56 2011] Advocate of Good-looking Deck Posts pulledfangs.blogspot.com :vtes: Manila V:tES

Juggernaut1981

Testing Ankha's Solution... (the phpBB export worked fine) Deck Name : Angry Witches Author : Juggernaut1981 Description : Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 7 average: 5.41667 4x Selena (6) Tremere antitribu(group 3) 3x Yasmin the Black (6) Tremere antitribu(group 3) 1x Terrell Harding (7) Tremere antitribu(group 3) 1x Antonio d'Erlette (5) Tremere antitribu(group 4) 1x Janine (4) Tremere antitribu(group 4) 1x Mosfair (4) Tremere antitribu(group 4) 1x Lectora (3) Tremere antitribu(group 4) Library [79 cards] Action [18] 4x Biothaumaturgic Experiment 8x Cryptic Mission 2x Name Forgotten, The 4x Rutor's Hand Ally [8] 1x Gregory Winter 1x Impundulu 4x Nephandus (Mage) 2x Succubus Combat [12] 6x Apportation 6x Theft of Vitae Equipment [2] 2x Ruins of Ceoris Event [4] 2x Restricted Vitae 2x Unmasking, The Master [17] 6x Ashur Tablets 3x Charisma 2x Dominate 2x Spirit Summoning Chamber 4x Tribute to the Master Reaction [18] 8x Deflection 10x On the Qui Vive Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Tue Oct 11 18:15:34 2011] Retired Baron of Sydney, Australia, 418

Adonai

Attached zip file to first post. Use that to replace the phpBB XSL file instead of trying to edit it. Something in the pasted text was being interpreted incorrectly by the forum software.

Miasmat

> CryWolf wrote: > EDIT: So it works ok, except in cases where the vamp's name is long, or s/he has lots of disciplines. (See Heather Florent and Arika below) > Proving, yet again, how broken Arika is...

Adonai

> extrala wrote: > Alternatively > 1. Enter the deck into Secret Library . > 2. Use the Export as bbcode function (as shown on top of the decklist). > I disagree, extrala. Secret Library's export is a much more useful format than the plain text that people post, but it does not 'look good'. All of the text and symbols are jammed together on the left. The updated ARDB phpBB layout really makes a striking contrast to both other styles. See also: Deck Name : The Howling Author : Stephen Sing Description : Asian Continental Championship Winner 2011 Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 8 average: 5.58333 4x Howler (8) Ahrimane(g2) 2x The Siamese (7) Ahrimane(g2) 2x Tupdog (1) Gargoyle(g3) 1x Cynthia Ingold (6) Ahrimane(g2) 1x Nettie Hale (5) Ahrimane(g2) 1x Bobby Lemon (4) Gangrel(g3) 1x Juanita Santiago (4) Ahrimane(g2) Library [90 cards] Action [22] 8x Deep Song 4x Engling Fury 1x Entrancement 5x Legal Manipulations 2x Muricia's Call 1x Public Trust 1x Vulture's Buffet Action Modifier [9] 2x Aire of Elation 1x Mole's Tunneling 6x Squirrel Balance Combat [24] 9x Aid from Bats 6x Carrion Crows 3x Leapfrog 3x Majesty 1x Song in the Dark 2x Terror Frenzy Combat/Action Modifier [6] 6x Swiftness of the Stag Master [17] 1x Animalism 9x Ashur Tablets 1x Direct Intervention 2x Dreams of the Sphinx 1x Guardian Angel 1x Wash 2x Wider View Reaction [9] 1x Ears of the Hare 8x Speak with Spirits Retainer [3] 1x Murder of Crows 2x Raven Spy Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Tue Oct 11 20:11:40 2011]

Hakuron

> Adonai wrote: > The updated ARDB phpBB layout really makes a striking contrast to both other styles. > Is there an updated version around that "knows" of cards like Lilith's Blessing? National Coordinator Germany nc [dot] germany [at] magenta [dot] de

drnlmza

For comparsion, Sutekh's VEKN BBcode export currently gives: Deck Name : The Howling Author : Stephen Sing Description : Asian Continental Championship Winner 2011 Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 8 average: 5.58 4x Howler (8) Ahrimane(group 2) 2x The Siamese (7) Ahrimane(group 2) 2x Tupdog (1) Gargoyle(group 3) 1x Cynthia Ingold (6) Ahrimane(group 2) 1x Nettie Hale (5) Ahrimane(group 2) 1x Bobby Lemon (4) Gangrel(group 3) 1x Juanita Santiago (4) Ahrimane(group 2) Library [90 cards] Action [22] 8x Deep Song 4x Engling Fury 1x Entrancement 5x Legal Manipulations 2x Muricia's Call 1x Public Trust 1x Vulture's Buffet Action Modifier [9] 2x Aire of Elation 1x Mole's Tunneling 6x Squirrel Balance Action Modifier/Combat [6] 6x Swiftness of the Stag Combat [24] 9x Aid from Bats 6x Carrion Crows 3x Leapfrog 3x Majesty 1x Song in the Dark 2x Terror Frenzy Master [17] 1x Animalism 9x Ashur Tablets 1x Direct Intervention 2x Dreams of the Sphinx 1x Guardian Angel 1x Wash 2x Wider View Reaction [9] 1x Ears of the Hare 8x Speak with Spirits Retainer [3] 1x Murder of Crows 2x Raven Spy Recorded with : Sutekh 0.9.0a0 [ 2011-10-12 ] -- National Coordinator South Africa

Adonai

> Hakuron wrote: > Is there an updated version around that "knows" of cards like Lilith's Blessing? > Yes. The version you have now will do it, if you update the CSV file. See also: www.vekn.net/index.php/forum/10-news-and-announcements/5813 > Non-existant user wrote: > Please locate your ardb.ini ARDB_3_1_1/ardb.ini > Edit that as a text file. > > Add the following: > > UpdateServer=www.vekn.net > UpdateFile=/images/stories/downloads/vtescsv.zip > > This will enable the auto update function of the database to work correctly. > Or simply replace your vtescv.zip with the one in the Downloads section of this website. www.vekn.net/images/stories/downloads/vtescsv.zip

Pascal Bertrand

> Juggernaut1981 wrote: > Testing Ankha's Solution... (the phpBB export worked fine) > > Deck Name : Angry Witches > Author : Juggernaut1981 > Description : > > Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 7 average: 5.41667 4x Selena (6) Tremere antitribu(group 3) 3x Yasmin the Black (6) Tremere antitribu(group 3) 1x Terrell Harding (7) Tremere antitribu(group 3) 1x Antonio d'Erlette (5) Tremere antitribu(group 4) 1x Janine (4) Tremere antitribu(group 4) 1x Mosfair (4) Tremere antitribu(group 4) 1x Lectora (3) Tremere antitribu(group 4) > Library [79 cards] > > Action [18] > 4x Biothaumaturgic Experiment [...] > Links in the crypt section are incorrect. "==" was generated where "=" was needed

CryWolf

Just found some "bugs" with the current export to phpbb filter of ARDB. When dealing with Imbued creeds, Visionary resolves to "vis", which the forum software recognizes as Visceratika . Also, Judgment resolves to "jud", which is not recognized by the forum software. Advocate of Good-looking Deck Posts pulledfangs.blogspot.com :vtes: Manila V:tES

Ankha

Could this post be moved and pinned to the Deck Clinic subforum? I guess it will be more useful there. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Adonai

> Ankha wrote: > Could this post be moved and pinned to the Deck Clinic subforum? > Some moderator did move it and pin it. Thanks go out to them! I've updated the initial post with a fixed ZIP file that includes Ankha's recent fixes for the crypt links .