TWD Dutch National Championship 2011 in Utrecht (NL) on Sep 17th, 2011

Here's some data (final standings and TWD) from the Dutch National Championship 2011 which took place on September 17rh, 2011 in Utrecht, The Netherlands. Bleed & Vote decks ruled (again) .. Final Rank Name Prelim GWs Prelim VPs Final VPs TPs 1. Lucien 2 8 4 168 -- Weenie Dementation 2. Koen 1 4 0 126 -- Lutz & Friends bleed 2. Peter 2 10 0 174 -- Arika & Friends Obf Vote 2. Sahan 2 5 0 144 -- Nana Buruki Deep Song/Brutal Influence 2. Thomas 1 4 1 124 -- Toreador antitribu Anarch Undue Influence 6. Pieter 1 3 112 -- Mata Hari Summon History Ally 6. Bram 1 3 112 -- Masika Wall 8. Jeroen 1 3 96 -- Gio Powerbleed feat Pimp Ho 9. Marcel 0 3 126 -- Tremere feat. Carna Wall 10. Jelmer 0 3 114 -- Ventrue Neo-Lawfirm 11. Martijn 0 2 84 -- Followers of Set Corruption/Vote 12. Koen M 0 1 90 -- Tupdog Nephandus 12. Emiliano 0 1 90 -- Lutz Maris Bloat Derange 14. Ed 0 1 82 -- Followers of Set?? 15. Ralf 0 0 70 -- Marconius Faerie Wards 15. Bart 0 0 70 -- Gangrel bloat rush 17. Dennis 0 0 54 -- Lasombra Bruise n Bleed Dutch National Championship 2011 Utrecht, The Netherlands 17 players 3R+F Lucien de Prins Deck Name: Weenie Dementation Author: Lucien de Prins Description: Crypt (Capacity min=1 max=5 avg=3.42; 12 cards) ================================================== 1x Apache Jones 5 aus for obf DEM !Malkavian:4 1x Cassandra Langely, The Waif 2 dem Malkavian:4 1x Eddie Gaines 1 dem pot Caitiff:3 1x Fabrizia Contreraz 4 dem pot !Malkavian:4 2x Jackie 3 DEM !Malkavian:4 1x Marta 3 aus dem !Malkavian:4 2x Midget 3 obf pre DEM !Malkavian:3 1x Persia, The Beautiful Statue 5 aus obf DEM Malkavian:3 1x Sean Rycek 4 aus dem Malkavian:4 1x Uncle George 5 aus dom obf DEM !Malkavian:3 Library (87 cards) ===================== Master (16 cards) 1x Anarch Troublemaker 1x Archon Investigation 1x Coven, The 5x Dementation 3x Effective Management 1x Misdirection 2x Pentex(TM) Subversion 2x Wash Event (1 cards) 1x Narrow Minds Action (25 cards) 25x Kindred Spirits Action Modifier (30 cards) 12x Confusion 12x Eyes of Chaos 6x Mind Tricks Reaction (9 cards) 2x Delaying Tactics 2x On the Qui Vive 5x Wrong and Crosswise Combo (6 cards) 6x Deny Created with Secret Library v0.9.3. (Sep 27, 2011 11:41:37)

Thanks a lot Ralf! I am a bit slow with all things VTES lately, I should have added it myself last week. Just to make sure I can added one more time to the list of qualified people, I organized it Thanks Jeff for adding everything. Paul

In 2011, National Championship organizer's don't automatically qualify. The rules might change for 2012. I can't update the qualified players list without full names though.

> Adonai wrote: > In 2011, National Championship organizer's don't automatically qualify. > The rules might change for 2012. > Hear hear! I recall the autoqualification for ECQ organizers being justified due to plenty of work included in organizing such an event. Yet some of ECQs are really not that large tournaments. Then you have Nationals where you get some 50 players or so and no autoqualification. Seems kinda unfair even if the line has to be drawn somewhere. Finnish Politics!

Wasn't it also an argument that if you organized and judged a qualifier, you couldn't actually play in it yourself and thus would not be able to qualify unless you traveled to a different country for their qualifier?

> Izaak wrote: > Wasn't it also an argument that if you organized and judged a qualifier, you couldn't actually play in it yourself and thus would not be able to qualify unless you traveled to a different country for their qualifier? > Yes, but this was changed in 2011 so that Qualifier organizers could drop their "auto-qualify" status and play in their own qualifiers if they used the multi-judge system. Unfortunately, the page at www.vekn.net/index.php/continental-championships hasn't yet been updated with language stating such. (I also agree that organizers of ANY event at ANY level should be able to drop their "auto-qualify" status and play in their own qualifiers if they use the multi-judge system, but this has yet to be addressed by the VEKN.) Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas "Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War* "Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier Please visit VTESville daily! vtesville.myminicity.com/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/129744447064017

> KevinM wrote: > (I also agree that organizers of ANY event at ANY level should be able to drop their "auto-qualify" status and play in their own qualifiers if they use the multi-judge system, but this has yet to be addressed by the VEKN.) > Well, at least when organizing nationals this can be done. I was under different assumption as very specifically asked Oscar about it and his answer was along the lines: "in nationals the organizer can pretty much use whatever rules she likes." The local rule thus was that the organizer could also play. As the info came from head of organized play I had no qualms allowing the organizer to play in the nationals. Finnish Politics!

Good thing I already qualified in another way then Here are the full names of the finalists: 1) Lucien de Prins 2) Koen Tabak 3) Peter Bouwman 4) Sahan Abeln 5) Thomas Kouwenhoven Only the finalists qualify right? Or is it still 25%?

National Championship Finalists qualify, only. I don't know they the distinction from a regional qualifier was made, perhaps to reinforce the value for the qualifier tournament. Qualifier list updated. www.vekn.net/index.php/forum/10-news-and-announcements/6144

> Aeschere wrote: > Only the finalists qualify right? Or is it still 25%? > For Nationals, only finalists. For Continental Qualifiers, organizer and top 25%.

> Pascal wrote: > > > Aeschere wrote: > > Only the finalists qualify right? Or is it still 25%? > > > For Nationals, only finalists. > For Continental Qualifiers, organizer and top 25%. > "Non-playing organizer", you mean to say. Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas "Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War* "Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier Please visit VTESville daily! vtesville.myminicity.com/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/129744447064017

Still sounds weird to me since the nationals can be regarded "higher" in ranking then the ecq's. But this is not the place for this discussion.