Can a Priscus be the target of a Scalpel Tongue by a vampire that is not part of the Priscus sub-referendum?
(i.e. is the Priscus Sub-referendum part of "this referendum")
Scalpel Tongue
Type: Action Modifier/Reaction
Requires: Celerity & Presence
Cost: 1 blood
Only usable during a referendum.
[cel] Choose a vampire who has cast one or more votes in this referendum. The chosen vampire is tapped and abstains during this referendum (this cancels that vampire's votes).
[CEL] As above, and the chosen vampire burns 1 blood.
Retired Baron of Sydney, Australia, 418
Yes, and yes.
See also:
LSJ 10-19-2006
groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/6da48d372d66038d
(Closest match of the 3 possible rulings.)
rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad
> Adonai wrote:
> Yes, and yes.
>
> See also:
>
> LSJ 10-19-2006
> groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/6da48d372d66038d
>
> (Closest match of the 3 possible rulings.)
>
> rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad
>
You misread. Scalpel Tongue can't be played if the Priscus doesn't cast votes outside the Prisci subreferendum.
However, if he casts votes *also* in the main referendum (eg. Gratiano who has become Cardinal, or a Priscus playing Awe), his votes in the prisci subreferendum are lost as well (he abstains both in the main and the prisci referendums).
So the answer is "No" (was there a second question?)
Prince of Paris, France
Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director
Ankha is correct.
Unless the Priscus casts "votes" (different from "Priscus vote"), they aren't an eligible target for Scalpel's Tongue.
[LSJ 20061019] wrote:
>
> Scalpel Tongue requires that one or more "votes" have been cast, which means one
> or more main referendum votes. Once played, however, Scalpel Tongue makes the
> victim abstain, and that affects the victims prisci votes as well as his votes.
>
So, the answers to Juggernaut1981's questions are:
Yes, but only if the Pricus has cast votes in the main referendum. This happens with Genevieve, or when Stavros plays Bewitching Oration, or when Gratiano is a Cardinal.