rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Hey LSJ!! Giovanni/Ravnos whats the deal?

3 messages from 3 participants · 19 January 1998 – 20 January 1998
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David Bonin

Hi, I have been playing vampire for a couple of months and noticed that there are cards in dark soveriens that give giovanni or ravnos all of the benefits of camarilla vampires. What are these benefits?? Nothing I have found seems to explain these at all. My suspicion is that they are not allowed to vote in a vote called by a camarilla and they are not allowed to hold a title but I am not sure. Please clarify this for me. Thanks in advance, Dave -- =================================================== /\ David V. Bonin //\\ /\ umbo...@cc.umanitoba.ca ///\\\//\\ dbo...@ce.umanitoba.ca __||___||__ University of Manitoba Winnipeg, MB, Canada "To Hunt, To Howl, To Live Free!" -- Wendy Pini ==================================================

John Whelan

In article <34C3B498...@fids.ce.umanitoba.ca>, David Bonin wrote: >Hi, > I have been playing vampire for a couple of months and noticed that >there are cards in dark soveriens that give giovanni or ravnos all of >the benefits of camarilla vampires. What are these benefits?? Nothing I >have found seems to explain these at all. My suspicion is that they are >not allowed to vote in a vote called by a camarilla and they are not >allowed to hold a title Normally, they may participate in any vote. They may not gain camarilla titles, but they keep those they already posess. >but I am not sure. Please clarify this for me. Non camarilla vampires cannot -- become princes or primogens -- call any of the following votes: Praxis Siezure (any) Justicar Retribution Command of the Harpies Masquerade Enforcement vote to burn Elesium: the Arboretum vote to burn Masquerade Enforcement Camarilla Exemplary -- be chosen as Archons or Camarilla Exemplaries. Other benefits are dependent on card text. For instance: Closed Session: Excludes non-camarilla vamps from voting. Imperial Decree: Allows camarilla vamps to attack non-camarilla vampires as an action. Judgement: Camarilla Segregation: A few of these in play can make you really wish for a Ravnos Acceptance card. Being Camarilla has a few disadvantages though: -- cannot vote during Cardinal Benediction -- cannot play Covenant of Blood, nor benefit from its effects -- cannot still be "Sabbat" and gain any advantages thereof Did I miss anything? Lupus Australis ____ ____ \ \----/ / |()__()| __\ __ /__ / __\()/__ \ |/ \==/ \| | || |

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] All correct, and everything is covered (except for some things which are clear from card text). -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team