I just got off the phone with a customer service representative from
Wizards of the Coast......He had a few things to say:
1) The card backs on all of the cards are going to change.
2)The borders are NOT going to change on the library cards...because the
different colors can be seen from the side of the deck (as with
MAGIC cards)
-instead, they are going to have black borders, but different
backgrounds (like the vampire clan cards)
more..............
3) The next printing of the game will be identical to the original
game....art and cards except for 4 cards (he did not know which ones) that
they were FIXING. He said that they do not change cards based on the
artwork..so they won't get rid of any of the gory stuff Yeah!!!
more.....
4)They are arranging an EXCHANGE system, where I can send in my current
cards, and they will trade 1-for-1 for the new cards. He didn't have any
details on when or how this would work as they are still working on it,
but they will post it on the net when available.
more....
Finally, I just wanted to say that this is extremely fair. The
representative did not know if they would charge a handling fee or not,
but if they exchange all my cards for the new ones, I will be very happy.
This eliminates all the cardback problems.
If you want to call customer service for yourself....206-624-0933
Once again a happy camper....BRYCE MILLER
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John Lawrence Ross <ross...@arctic.uucp> wrote:
[ quoted text not captured ]> Now THIS IMPRESSES ME...
You think they'll really do this? The people in my club alone would be
sending in over 10,000 cards. It took WOTC nearly 3 months to complete my
Legends Uncommon Exchange of [ready?] 6 cards.
Ray
On Thu, 4 May 1995, zip...@aol.com wrote:
> 4)They are arranging an EXCHANGE system, where I can send in my current
> cards, and they will trade 1-for-1 for the new cards. He didn't have any
> details on when or how this would work as they are still working on it,
> but they will post it on the net when available.
I will be waiting for the official post before I get my hopes up. It just
sounds too good to be true. OTOH, WotC probably has enough money to pull
it off.
Also... What will they be doing with the old Jyhad cards people send in?
Will they be willing to exchange in the other direction for people still
desperately trying to complete Jyhad sets? Or, will they just be
destroying the old cards? If they decide to destroy the old cards, they
will certainly become more valuble...
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In article <3o8vpc$p...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> zip...@aol.com (Ziphiid) writes:
>4)They are arranging an EXCHANGE system, where I can send in my current
>cards, and they will trade 1-for-1 for the new cards. He didn't have any
>details on when or how this would work as they are still working on it,
>but they will post it on the net when available.
Now THIS IMPRESSES ME...
< Ex-ex-player proudly applauds the efforts of WotC >
We can finally breath easy again
< sigh of welcome relief >
Lupus Dragon
-=(UDIC)=-
>> >4)They are arranging an EXCHANGE system, where I can send in my current
>> >cards, and they will trade 1-for-1 for the new cards. He didn't have any
>> >details on when or how this would work as they are still working on it,
>> >but they will post it on the net when available.
>>
>> Now THIS IMPRESSES ME...>
>>You think they'll really do this? The people in my club alone would be
>sending in over 10,000 cards. It took WOTC nearly 3 months to complete my
>Legends Uncommon Exchange of [ready?] 6 cards.
>
>Ray
I believe they will live up to their agreement. Yes, it may take
time.. but REALLY.. what more can you POSSIBLY ask?? They are going out
of the way for this one, and i'll gladly wait for the new cards to arrive.
Although, there is now the mere possibility that cards with the
Jyhad backs will mean more to the collectors.. i may keep my rares in light
of the oppurtunity to make a few bucks..
Lupus Dragon
-=(UDIC)=-
Actually, it has not been decided yet whether there will be a card exchange
program or not. However, I will certainly pass along any feedback on
the question, which so far has been extremely positive.
Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for
aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc.
Thomas R Wylie (aa...@cats.ucsc.edu) wrote:
: Actually, it has not been decided yet whether there will be a card exchange: program or not. However, I will certainly pass along any feedback on
: the question, which so far has been extremely positive.
Ye gods - the amount of time and effort, not to mention postage, required
to ship millions of cards back and forth...
With this many people owning old cards, does anyone believe that the
turnaround time for replacement will be less than, say, half a year?
Maybe more? Dark Sovereigns comes out in August - who's going to want to
ship their cards off to WoTC (where you, the customer, are "irrelevant")
until November or December and WAIT that long to play with the new cards?
I mean, what are they going to do - instruct everyone to make out a
detailed list of every card they're sending, and then have someone go
into the vault and hand-pick V:TES versions of all those cards?
If even an eighth of the Jyhad print run gets sent back for replacement,
that's 22.5 MILLION cards. Think about it. We're talking serious
man-hours just to process the replacements, not to mention the cost of
the cards themselves.
Not changing the backs, now, THAT would be simple.
Brand
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ross...@arctic.uucp (John Lawrence Ross) writes:
> I believe they will live up to their agreement. Yes, it may take
> time.. but REALLY.. what more can you POSSIBLY ask??
Um, that they not change the card backs.
...next question.
Fred
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Thomas R Wylie <aa...@cats.ucsc.edu> wrote:
>Actually, it has not been decided yet whether there will be a card exchange
>program or not. However, I will certainly pass along any feedback on
>the question, which so far has been extremely positive.
Well, it's *something.* I'm still going to have to make a
considerable investment of my time to catalog what I send (should I take
advantage of it, which I doubt) and pack them for shipping. Then I will
be unable to play Jyhad for the months it takes for the cards to get
back to me. Then I'll need to rebuild my decks and resort the new cards.
Overall, it still sucks. But it's sucks a lot less than not
doing it.
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Thomas R Wylie (aa...@cats.ucsc.edu) wrote:
: Actually, it has not been decided yet whether there will be a card exchange
: program or not. However, I will certainly pass along any feedback on
: the question, which so far has been extremely positive.: Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for: aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc.
Well then, please allow me to add my approval to the 'proposed'
card exchange. I know that this is the only way that I will continue to
invest in the Jyhad/V:TES game. I agree with the many outcries that
different card backs will influence this great game in an undesirable way.
As such, I can no longer justify spending my money to invest in expansions
that will not be completely (and I mean _completely_!!!) compatable with
my current investment (no matter how much I love this game...which is in
the extreme). A 1-for-1 trade of my soon-to-be-obselete cards for the
new, expansion-combatable cards would certainly remedy this unfortunate
feeling and allow me to fully commit myself to the expansions and,
therefore, the growth of the game in general (through new player
interaction, investing money in a company I believe in, etc.)
If you are counting votes in any way, please add mine to the
exchange approval list.
-- Jay Wagnon
Jay.W...@m.cc.utah.edu
(Where is Astrid Thomas when you need her?!? ;) )
Thomas R Wylie (aa...@cats.ucsc.edu) wrote:
: Actually, it has not been decided yet whether there will be a card
exchange
: program or not. However, I will certainly pass along any feedback on
: the question, which so far has been extremely positive.
That would pull the fangs of my objections, provided that the exchange was
substantial. I must say, though, that that would probably be a
substantial burden for WotC.
Curt Adams (curt...@aol.com)
CurtAdams (curt...@aol.com) wrote:
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: Curt Adams (curt...@aol.com)
The exchange seems to have the best of intentions, but I agree that there
could be a lot of administrative problems to deal with an exchange of
this size. If I were to try to trade in cards, I wiould just wait until
teh new edition comes out and trade the cards I want to replace 1-1 for
the new versions because there will be many people who think it is COOL
to have the old backs. Look at how much people pay for black bordered
lands. Lands for God sake! People will want teh originals, so if I want
to trade I would wait for the new edition and the new "collectors".
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> Actually, it has not been decided yet whether there will be a card exchange
> program or not. However, I will certainly pass along any feedback on
> the question, which so far has been extremely positive.
I'd like to put in a vote of positive feedback, but I'd like to go in the
other direction. I want the old card backs so i can finish my set!!
I would vote for a card exchang program. The only problem I have is that
WoTC is so far shown that they are notorious for not listening to their
customers. I would be greatly surprised if this actually came to pass, but
I will not be holding my breath.
Thomas R Wylie (aa...@cats.ucsc.edu) wrote:
:: Actually, it has not been decided yet whether there will be a card exchange: program or not. However, I will certainly pass along any feedback on
: the question, which so far has been extremely positive.:
:: Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for
: aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc.:
if they are willing to pay all the costs (except maybe my shipping to them)
then fine maybe
but based an the "ear" WotC has lent this newsgroup over the backs
issue i'll only say i'll belive it when i see it
dan edelman