>>pitch cards are usually of limited usefulness.
>
>Well. *cough* I wouldn't necessarily say THAT...
>imagine the
>following scenario:
>
>Start of combat, you pull out a Torn Signpost.
>
>Your victim says "Oh, my. Potence", and plays a Fake
>Out to go to
>long range, cackling with glee.
Don't see that happening around here much
>You play Shadow Strike, decline to use the maneuver,
>and hit him at
>long range with your Torn Signpost, knocking his
>pointy little head
>across the room.
I'd face S:CE
>If he doesn't maneuver, (relying on Dodge, for
>example), you just play
>Immortal Grapple; same result.
and he'll either die or prevent with FOR(depending on
what player it is)
>too. Sure beats
>hell out of trying to outmaneuver the Assamites and
>celerity-gun
>decks.
I've played assamites, they did reasonably well, but
mostly tended to kill off other combat decks, with the
exception of when gangrel plays drawing out the beast
*mutter*
>Pitch is starting to make a real strong showing these
>days; there's a
>lot of long-range combat floating around out there,
>and a lot of
>maneuvers showing up instead of Dodge or S:CE, in
>response to the
>potence-grabby-decks. I find that a good pitch or
>other long-range
>deck will often catch many people by surprise and/or
>with their pants
>down; or, in some cases, at least provide you with
>mutual assured
>destruction against ANOTHER long-range deck, so you
>have somewhere to
>start bargaining from. =)
Usually the only pitch around here is the odd lasombra
deck throwing a gate to go to long range or the one
assamite deck that I rarely see.
>...The problem is keeping people from Dramatic
>Upheavaling you all
>over the place once you get in position for a VP. =)
Doesn't happen much around here either.
All in all, I guess it depends upon your playgroup.
The playgroup I usually play have 2 for/pot/cel decks,
a few gangrel decks, a couple of ventrue, a couple of
lasombra, a couple of tzimisce, a couple of toreador,
an assamite, a giovani and some mixed odd others.
The only real rush decks around here are very
formidable, the two jimmy dunn/richter/gwendolyn decks
with pot/for/cel... people seldom play dedicated
bleed, except for me, I often play a gangrel dom deck.
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