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Question: LSJ

2 messages from 2 participants · 05 September 2000
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Derek Ray

On Tue, 05 Sep 2000 06:07:25 GMT, Alex Harmon <alexh...@home.com> wrote: >Is the final statement in the following scenario correct? > >Vamp A plays a bum's rush which targets Vamp B. >Vamp A plays a dawn operation. card text from Dawn Operation: "If blocked, all damage dealt to all vampires in the resulting combat ^^^^^^^^^^ is aggravated. Any vampire attempting to block may now choose not to block. (S) As Above, but vampires attempting to block cannot back out." >There is no block to the bum's rush action and combat between Vamp A and >Vamp B ensues. >--All damage dealt within the combat is aggravated-- Nope, per card text. >Or, to make the dawn operation effect work, must the action be blocked? >Paul Johnson mentioned to me that the ruling regarding bum's rush >actions is that when combat occurs it is considered blocked (either >because a minion blocked the bum's rush action OR because the bum's rush >was unblocked and the ensuing combat is considered "blocked"). Hm... no. If any action is blocked, combat ensues. This is the result of blocking, though, and the action is considered unsuccessful. A successful Bum's Rush action, however, causes one minion to enter combat with another (card text from Bum's Rush) - NOT as a result of blocking, though. This doesn't have anything at all to do with blocking, so if you choose not to block the Bum's Rush, the damage will not be aggravated. You could even Freak Drive with inferior Fortitude after a successful (unblocked) Bum's Rush. >Basically I always thought that the effects of dawn operation were >triggered only if there was a block. But now I am led to believe that And you were right. =) -- Derek Jack-Booted Thug of Atlanta

LSJ

Derek Ray wrote: > Alex Harmon <alexh...@home.com> wrote: > >Vamp A plays a bum's rush which targets Vamp B. > >Vamp A plays a dawn operation. > >There is no block to the bum's rush action and combat between Vamp A and > >Vamp B ensues. > >--All damage dealt within the combat is aggravated-- > > Nope, per card text: > "If blocked, all damage dealt [...] resulting combat is aggravated. > > >Or, to make the dawn operation effect work, must the action be blocked? Correct. > >Paul Johnson mentioned to me that the ruling regarding bum's rush > >actions is that when combat occurs it is considered blocked (either Not true. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/