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In a tournament, are people who were in the current table and round, but have since been ousted, considered to still be players on that table? That is, are they allowed to help other, unousted, players with things like remembering to get a pool for the edge, etc? or, are they considered to merely be spectators once they have been ousted? also, on a completely unrelated note, i am assuming Brujah Frenzy (..."The Brujah's action is now blocked"...) cannot be played on an action that has been made entirely unblockable (eg: Day Operation)?. thanks, salem.

....salem christ.... <s940...@bohm.anu.edu.au> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.3.90.1011016172909.86A-100000@bohm... > In a tournament, are people who were in the current table and round, but > have since been ousted, considered to still be players on that table? > > That is, are they allowed to help other, unousted, players with things > like remembering to get a pool for the edge, etc? > > or, are they considered to merely be spectators once they have been ousted? They're spectators. > also, on a completely unrelated note, i am assuming Brujah Frenzy > (..."The Brujah's action is now blocked"...) cannot be played on an > action that has been made entirely unblockable (eg: Day Operation)?. Day Operation/Daring the Dawn makes the action unblockable by vampires, not completely unblockable. Brujah Frenzy blocks the action itself, so there's no blocker (like Kiss of Rah). So, in those cases, Brujah Frenzy can still be played. Sunrise Service, Horrific Countenance and Walk across Arcadia make the action strictly unblockable, but even in those cases I could see that the 'block' part of the Brujah Frenzy would have no effect, but combat would still start and so the action would fizzle... LSJ? Flux

"....salem christ...." wrote: > > In a tournament, are people who were in the current table and round, but > have since been ousted, considered to still be players on that table? No. > That is, are they allowed to help other, unousted, players with things > like remembering to get a pool for the edge, etc? No. > or, are they considered to merely be spectators once they have been ousted? Yes. > also, on a completely unrelated note, i am assuming Brujah Frenzy > (..."The Brujah's action is now blocked"...) cannot be played on an > action that has been made entirely unblockable (eg: Day Operation)?. It can be. [TOM 19-APR-1996] -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

[ quoted text not captured ] "Unblockable" means only that it cannot be blocked by any minion. Brujah Frenzy (and Kiss of Ra, etc.) "block" the action - meaning that the action resolves unsuccessfully. [ quoted text not captured ]

In message <3bcc...@212.18.160.197>, Flux <fl...@netc.pt> writes >Day Operation/Daring the Dawn makes the action unblockable by vampires, not >completely unblockable. "Only usable when you are announcing your current action. This action cannot be blocked. " Day Operation. http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/cardlist_d.html -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D And if it's all right, I'd kind've like to be your lover EBD690ECD7A1F 'Cause when you're with me I can't help but be B457CA213D7E6 So desperately, uncontrollably happy 68C3695D623D5D