Clan Hosers-Reply

elfh...@netcom.com (Mark Havener) wrote: >I>Ah, I see. I thought we were talking about it as a *Clan Hoser*, not >just as a useful card. Sure, I could see how it would be useful, but >it's not that useful *against* Brujah, and I thought that's what you were >arguing. Of course, if someone were playing a Brujah political deck... ;) >Like I said before, if you send my Brujah against someone I want them to >fight, I will...otherwise, I'll dodge... >-Elfholme Actually I was thinking in terms of useful cards. But I think I wandered off topic and was considering only the arguement about wether they are useful to include. Not if they managed to succesfully hurt the clan. Rory

In article <4hro2t$j...@nntp1.best.com>, REF <refp...@best.com> wrote: >> >I have used and seen this used effectively several times. >At the minimum it wastes the action of the Brujah and often taps >another vampire as well. >Encouraging a deadly fight is often feasible, you have two Meths >involved and you only have to convince one of them to go for blood. >This does not usually hurt the Brujah but is still useful often enough >to warrent inclusion. Ah, I see. I thought we were talking about it as a *Clan Hoser*, not just as a useful card. Sure, I could see how it would be useful, but it's not that useful *against* Brujah, and I thought that's what you were arguing. Of course, if someone were playing a Brujah political deck... ;) Like I said before, if you send my Brujah against someone I want them to fight, I will...otherwise, I'll dodge... >After all stopping the equiping of an assault rifle is a good thing<tm>. Real Brujah don't use guns. You must be thinking of Toreador. In my deck I have five pieces of equipment--2 Sport Bikes, 2 Bastard Swords, and a Sengir Dagger--all of which I could easily do without (though you'd probably be better off stopping me from giving Bianca that Dagger... ;) ). -Elfholme -- ****************************************************************************** This bit of wisdom has been brought to you by: Mark Havener Lord of elfh...@netcom.com Wood Elf King (and Jyhad player extraordinaire!) ******************************************************************************

Errol T <etre...@compusmart.ab.ca> writes: >Only problem is you have to be playing Malkavians to use Malk Dementia. No. Quite a few of the clan hosers were mis-printed with clan symbols on them in the VtES (unlimited) edition. All of these have been errataed to *not* require control of a caln member to be played, as in the Jyhad (limited) version. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | NEVER say Cthulu's name ou%^ http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | *$%t lo#^*$% @zU{- Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. | q^@*#`&NO CARRIER.

The VTES printing of a bunch of clan hosers (like Malk Dementia, Brujah Frenzy, and Gangrel De-evolution) were misprinted with the "You need this clan" symbol on them. They are mis prints, and wrong. You do not need a Malkavian to play Malkavian Dementia, or a Gangrel to play Gangrel Atavism (as I think it is now called). It doesn't make much sense to need a member of clan X to hose clan X. Peter D Bakija PD...@aol.com "I'm going to kill you anyway, Kryceck, so you might as well tell me the truth!" -Mulder

Hmmmm.... I was not aware of this, Then yeah it is one of the better ones. Errol T.