rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

(LSJ) Ultimate Mata and Mask question :)

2 messages from 2 participants · 21 December 2007
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François

Hello, A twisted mind in my playgroup came up with the following question : Mata Hari calls a Cardinal Benediction. Lubomira Hradok masks the action. Can Mata Hari be chosen as the recipient of the title ? If M1000F wasn't played, Mata Hari could obviously be chosen. Yet she couldn't be chosen for a Cardinal Benediction played by Lubomira. At first I thought that it worked as if Lubomira (and not Mata) had played the Cardinal Benediction (the action resolves as if Lubomira had played it in the first place), and the Benediction would not see Mata as Sabbat. Then I remembered that if Mata had played Lost in Crowds before the action was masked, Lubomira still would not be considered as having played Lost in Crowds for this action and could play it (or the old mask + command of the beast combo no longer works ?). So even after Mask is played, the Benediction could see Mata as Sabbat, as a Sabbat- requiring card that has been played by Mata. So in the end, I don't know if Mata can really become a (dormant) Cardinal this way... Can you help me ? Thank you, François

LSJ

François wrote: > Mata Hari calls a Cardinal Benediction. Lubomira Hradok masks the > action. Can Mata Hari be chosen as the recipient of the title ? > > If M1000F wasn't played, Mata Hari could obviously be chosen. Yet she > couldn't be chosen for a Cardinal Benediction played by Lubomira. > > At first I thought that it worked as if Lubomira (and not Mata) had > played the Cardinal Benediction (the action resolves as if Lubomira > had played it in the first place), and the Benediction would not see > Mata as Sabbat. Correct. Similarly, Lubomira would pay any cost associated with playing the card, not Mata. (0 in the case of Cardinal Benediction, you get the idea). > Then I remembered that if Mata had played Lost in Crowds before the > action was masked, Lubomira still would not be considered as having > played Lost in Crowds for this action and could play it (or the old > mask + command of the beast combo no longer works ?). So even after > Mask is played, the Benediction could see Mata as Sabbat, as a Sabbat- > requiring card that has been played by Mata. If her ability "stuck", then Lubomira would not be able to play Mask.