Clan Impersonation

If a master card is played on a member of a specific clan, i.e. it can only be played on a member of a specific clan, do its effects persist even if the vampire changes clans with Clan Impersonation? Some examples: A Toreador with Aching Beauty becomes a Malkavian. The Aching Beauty stays around, right? And its effects persist? What about cards like Triole's Revenge? You play it on a Ventrue. If they change clans, they still don't avoid the effects of the Revenge, correct? I just want to make sure that Clan Impersonation does not affect any cards that might have been played on the vampire in question.

d-h...@cs.uiuc.edu (David Hyatt) writes: [ quoted text not captured ] That's correct. The only thing Clan Impersonation affects (besides which clan the vampire is) is whether or not the vampire is considered a Camarilla vampire (based on the new clan's sect). -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | Ensign Crusher, check that http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | leaky warp core please. Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |

> >If a master card is played on a member of a specific clan, i.e. it > >can only be played on a member of a specific clan, do its effects > >persist even if the vampire changes clans with Clan Impersonation? > > That's correct. The only thing Clan Impersonation affects (besides > which clan the vampire is) is whether or not the vampire is considered > a Camarilla vampire (based on the new clan's sect). OFFICIAL--The answer is correct. -- --Shawn F. Carnes Game Designer and Developer, Wizards of the Coast, Inc WotC NetRep for rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad ************************************************************* "We cannot rest, knowing that The Captain and Tennille are in good health!" --Milk and Cheese

hello, all you sappy people . . . L. Scott Johnson wrote: (i cut a bunch of stuff) > > That's correct. The only thing Clan Impersonation affects (besides > which clan the vampire is) is whether or not the vampire is considered > a Camarilla vampire (based on the new clan's sect). > > -- > L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | Ensign Crusher, check that > http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | leaky warp core please. > Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. | nice sig. the section i included is quite incorrect, however. as a clan, the assamites have never been part of the camarilla, and the setites turned the camarilla down centuries ago. so, as clans, the assamites and setites are separate. there are individual exceptions, though. there is a card, in ancient hearts i believe, which gives individual writs of acceptance to a non camarilla kindred. after all, if we were to base that on the kin's sect, then where would the setites go? despite the fact that there are traitorus setites within the sabbat, they are not a sabbat clan as the timisce and lasombra are. thus, the only thing clan impersonation effects is a change in clan. oh yeah, i knew that . . . ;( so if someone was to make mr "virtuoso thespian" into a timisce (and yes, you can do that before the sabbat comes out. kinda like using a vial of elder's blood to give a ventrue obeah), then he would be a camarilla timisce, not an antitribu. not that that's normal or anything. seeeee ya . . . jacob :d ". . . with her brain in this condition, all she'll be good for will be eating popcorn and watching married with children . . ." from ed and his dead mother hey, i resemble that remark. oh . . . wait a minute . . . ewwwww

Joe Roberson <jrob...@mica.edu> writes: >hello, all you sappy people . . . >L. Scott Johnson wrote: >(i cut a bunch of stuff) >> >> That's correct. The only thing Clan Impersonation affects (besides >> which clan the vampire is) is whether or not the vampire is considered >> a Camarilla vampire (based on the new clan's sect). >> >> -- >> L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | Ensign Crusher, check that >> http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | leaky warp core please. >> Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. | >nice sig. the section i included is quite incorrect, however. as a clan, the assamites have [explanation of sub-divisions of non-Camarilla deleted] The section you included is 100% correct (and verified by Shawn). An assamite who uses Clan Impersonation (CI) to become Gangrel will thus be a Camarilla vampire, a Gangrel, and remain unable to commit diablerie (by card text on all Assamites so far). A Gangrel who uses CI to become Assamite will thus be a Non-Camarilla vampire, an Assamite, and able to commit diablerie (as all vampires can, barring card text). -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | A one-bit brain with a http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | parity error. [ quoted text not captured ]