premaneuvre sequense?

me and my opponent had a situation in which we could both see each others hand. i got a drawing out the beast but i like to use it for an other combat. my opponent has consealed-magnum in hand but doesnt want to play it when i play dotb. does the acting metuselah have to play it all first or can he wait and play at any time before maneuvres are anounced?

[ quoted text not captured ] 1.6.1.6 addresses this. A. Acting Methuselah plays or passes. B. If she plays, then go to A. If Pass, continue... C. Blocking Methuselah plays of passes. D. If she plays, then go to A. If Pass continue... E. Begin maneuvering. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

[ quoted text not captured ] LSJ 's response being quite technical, here is a simple one ;) If you control the acting vampire, don't play the drawing out the beast. Your opponent has the option to play the concealed magnum. If he plays it, then you have the option to play drawing out the beast after this anyway. (see rulebook and LSJ answer) If you control the blocking vampire, you must wait to see if your opponent plays the concealed magnum. If he doesn't do so , fine, you can decline to play your drawing out the beast, he won't have the option to play it since he didn't do it in the first place. (see rulebook and LSJ answer)

"reyda" <true_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3e856d90$0$28784$79c1...@nan-newsreader-02.noos.net>... > If you control the blocking vampire, you must wait to see if your opponent > plays the concealed magnum. If he doesn't do so , fine, you can decline to > play your drawing out the beast, he won't have the option to play it since > he didn't do it in the first place. (see rulebook and LSJ answer) Hrm...correct me if I'm wrong, but if the acting minion's player doesn't explicitly decline to play cards during prerange, he can still play that drawing out the beast, right? Granted the blocking minion's player can force an explicit decision about prerange out of the acting minion's player before playing the concealed weapon and magnum, but if the acting minion's player asks the blocking minion's player to play prerange first and the blocking minion's player carelessly plays that combo before the acting minion's player explicitly declines to play any prerange, does the acting minion's player still not get a chance to play prerange cards?

Al wrote: :: "reyda" <true_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message :: news:<3e856d90$0$28784$79c1...@nan-newsreader-02.noos.net>... :: ::: If you control the blocking vampire, you must wait to see if your ::: opponent plays the concealed magnum. If he doesn't do so , fine, ::: you can decline to play your drawing out the beast, he won't have ::: the option to play it since he didn't do it in the first place. ::: (see rulebook and LSJ answer) :: :: Hrm...correct me if I'm wrong, but if the acting minion's player :: doesn't explicitly decline to play cards during prerange, he can :: still play that drawing out the beast, right? Hey ! He said he wanted to *keep the drawing out the beast* for another combat.

Al wrote: :: Hrm...correct me if I'm wrong, but if the acting minion's player :: doesn't explicitly decline to play cards during prerange, he can :: still play that drawing out the beast, right? You are the defending player. You ask the acting player if he wants to play something before range. case 1: he says yes, plays his batch of prerange cards. Then he says 'up to you'. Where you play your cards one by one, and the acting player can interrupt your batch by playing other prerange cards he may have left. If you had no cards to play before range, the acting player can't play the cards he wanted since he said 'up to you'. case 2 : he says no, then 'up to you'. You play your cards one by one, and the acting player can interrupt your batch by playing other prerange cards he may have left aside. If you play no prerange cards, then the acting player can't go back on his decision to play zero cards. do you get it ? =)

"reyda" <true_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3e85afdb$0$260$79c1...@nan-newsreader-02.noos.net>... [ quoted text not captured ] Yup, all the posts have cleared it up quite nicely :D Al