Direct Action on Tapped Vampires

After playing a game of V:TES a few days ago with a group, a question occurred to me. If a tapped vampire is attacked by another vampire as a direct action can the tapped vampire defend itself against the onslaught or do they have to helplessly take the beating? In this game the rule was it had to take the punishment. I wasn't sure about the ruling concerning this so I did not contest it. Is there a rule? Please let me know. Thanks. Kathleen of Clan Brujah =;) -- <><><><><><><><> <> ** <> af...@ccn.cs.dal.ca <> || <> Poenaplaceunque &;) <> || ** <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <> || // <> <> ||// * ------- | | | ----- ----- |\ | <> <> ||\\ / \ | | | | | | | \ | <> <> || \\ /---\ | |----| | |-- |-- | \ | <> <> || \\ / \ | | | |____ |____ |____ | \_| <> <> <> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

Kathleen, Tell your group that they are wrong. Whether a minion is tapped or not has no effect on combat. A tapped vampire has exactly the same combat abilities and options as an untapped one. They don't have to take any whuppin's. Give 'em hell, Brujah!!! ;-) Doug Dunaway (An artisticly inept Torreador)

DOUGDWISE (doug...@aol.com) wrote: : Kathleen, : Tell your group that they are wrong. Whether a minion is tapped or not : has no effect on combat. A tapped vampire has exactly the same combat : abilities and options as an untapped one. Doug, Thanks for the quick reply. I was sure the tapped vampire was still able to defend itself. Now I know. =;) :They don't have to take any : whuppin's. Give 'em hell, Brujah!!! ;-) : Doug Dunaway : (An artisticly inept Torreador) You damn right I will, Torreador!!! I'll make them pay!!! =;) Kathleen of Clan Brujah [ quoted text not captured ]

On 21 Jun 1996 23:33:24 GMT, af...@ccn.cs.dal.ca (Kathleen Ellis) wrote: >After playing a game of V:TES a few days ago with a group, a question >occurred to me. If a tapped vampire is attacked by another vampire as a >direct action can the tapped vampire defend itself against the onslaught >or do they have to helplessly take the beating? In this game the rule >was it had to take the punishment. I wasn't sure about the ruling >concerning this so I did not contest it. Is there a rule? Please let me >know. Thanks. >Kathleen of Clan Brujah =;) Sig snipped because your a Brujah:) A tapped vampire cannot play reaction cards but all combat cards are go. Rory The Ref at refplace.best.com

DOUGDWISE (doug...@aol.com) wrote: : Kathleen, : Tell your group that they are wrong. Whether a minion is tapped or not : has no effect on combat. A tapped vampire has exactly the same combat : abilities and options as an untapped one. They don't have to take any : whuppin's. Give 'em hell, Brujah!!! ;-) : Doug Dunaway : (An artisticly inept Torreador) This brings up a different question. Contracts and certain cards say attack a vampire with stealth while others say enter combant with the target minion. What is the difference between the two? Does attack mean you get to take a free strike at the target vampire (contracts being a surprise attack and assassination)? Danielle, Caitiff Justicar

[ quoted text not captured ] No. "Attack" and "Enter Combat" are the same. The only difference in the examples you mention would be the stealth level. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | Working here is a nightmare. http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | I'd quit but I need the sleep. Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |

On 24 Jun 1996, Danielle E. Ostach wrote: > Date: 24 JUN 1996 19:20:49 -0500 > From: Danielle E. Ostach <dani...@MCS.COM> > Newgroups: rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad > Subject: Re: Direct Action on Tapped Vampires > > DOUGDWISE (doug...@aol.com) wrote: > : Kathleen, > : Tell your group that they are wrong. Whether a minion is tapped or not > : has no effect on combat. A tapped vampire has exactly the same combat > : abilities and options as an untapped one. They don't have to take any > : whuppin's. Give 'em hell, Brujah!!! ;-) > : Doug Dunaway > : (An artisticly inept Torreador) > > This brings up a different question. Contracts and certain cards say > attack a vampire with stealth while others say enter combant with the > target minion. What is the difference between the two? Does attack mean > you get to take a free strike at the target vampire (contracts being a > surprise attack and assassination)? > > Danielle, Caitiff Justicar > > No, that's what Hidden Lurker and Fast Reaction are for. I Highly recommend Hidden lurker for an Assamite deck. I may even rebuild my L.A. riots deck with assamites just to see someones expression who blocked an action of mine and got smacked by 3 Assamites without a strike in response. ********************************************************************** "...I'm just a hard-working girl trying to make it in a man's world." -Catwoman (Issue #30) *************************************** Dharia McGrew damc...@mhc.mtholyoke.edu and of course.....(in other words, LOOK AT IT!!!!) http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~damcgrew **********************************************************************

On 24 Jun 1996 19:20:49 -0500, dani...@MCS.COM (Danielle E. Ostach) wrote: >This brings up a different question. Contracts and certain cards say >attack a vampire with stealth while others say enter combant with the >target minion. What is the difference between the two? Does attack mean >you get to take a free strike at the target vampire (contracts being a >surprise attack and assassination)? >Danielle, Caitiff Justicar No free attack. The card text merely allows someone to tak a D action to enter combat/attack soomeone. Any stealth gained from a card just means your harder to block and more likely to enter combat with the desired minion. Rory The Ref at refp...@best.com