another question about immortal Grapple

Does Immortal Grapple cancel the effect of Strike:combat ends? Wow, so many more uses for it than I thought before.

Boon Sian Chang wrote: "Does Immortal Grapple cancel the effect of Strike:combat ends?" Yes, it does prevent S:CE. While Immortally Grappled (or Immortally Grappleing), a minion may not: -Dodge -S:CE -Use weapons (even weapons that are based on hand damage. Thus no Sengir Dagger, Bastard Sword, Brass Knuckles, or Sword of Judgement while Immortal Grapple is in play) -Use any strikes that are not hand strikes. This pretty much prevents the use of Thaumaturgy (for example) and any other non Potence hand strike. While a minion is Immortally Grappled, it may: -Use hand strikes -Use Pot modifiers on hand strikes (like Torn Signpost and Undead Strength) -Use any other modifiers to hand strikes (like Wolf Claws or Lucky Blow) -That is all. Having access to an ample supply of Immortal Grapple will enable incredibly useful combat decks in the face of (the very common) heavy S:CE defense and will scare your friends. Get 7 or 8 and show those Majesty punks a thing or two... Peter D Bakija PD...@aol.com "That would make them stupid pirates." -Seacrops, the cursed mariner

Boon Sian Chang wrote: > > Does Immortal Grapple cancel the effect of Strike:combat ends? > Nope. Immortal Grapple is played BEFORE strikes are chosen, but after the choose maneuver phase. If someone declared his strike, it is too late to play IG. But: Yes, both minions may not play S:CE or Dodge as soon as IG is played. -- Michael Beer, Dortmund, Germany, ICQ 1175389 -------------------------------------------- Life is founded on Chaos. So if you find your living room became disordered: Don't panic! It's natural... :)

Adam Hattrell wrote: > > Yet another IG question. If you have been imortal grappled, can > your ghoul retainer pick up that chainsaw, and have a go, or is > he restricted to just hand strikes too? Damage done by retainers is never from a strike, since retainers aren't minions and therefore have no strike. While Immortally Grappled, you Wolf Companion can still bite for 1, your Murder of Crows can still peck for 1, your Carrion Crows (not a retainer at all) can still peck for 1 or 2, and the Ghoul Retainer can still inflict damage with any weapon that you aren't using. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

Yet another IG question. If you have been imortal grappled, can your ghoul retainer pick up that chainsaw, and have a go, or is he restricted to just hand strikes too? Later, -- Adam Hattrell, Support, Cimio Ltd. ad...@cimio.co.uk