Aggravated Damage in torpor

Hi guys, what happens to a vamp in torpor with 0 blood who suffers 1 point of aggravated damgage (i. e. via Darin the Dawn)? Thanks in advance.

Sandman <altomi...@gmx.de> wrote: > Hi guys, > what happens to a vamp in torpor with 0 blood who suffers 1 point of > aggravated damgage (i. e. via Darin the Dawn)? He is burned. From the rulebook (emphasis mine): [6.4.6] Damage Resolution "Aggravated damage done to a wounded vampire can burn the vampire outright. A wounded vampire is one that has taken damage that he failed to heal or one that IS IN TORPOR or on his way to torpor. For each point of aggravated damage that is successfully inflicted on a wounded vampire, he must burn a blood to prevent his destruction. IF HE DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH BLOOD, HE IS BURNED."

On Oct 26, 7:15 am, "Sandman" <altomiria...@gmx.de> wrote: > what happens to a vamp in torpor with 0 blood who suffers 1 point of > aggravated damgage (i. e. via Darin the Dawn)? If you are in torpor with zero blood, and you take a point of aggro damage somehow, as noted, you burn, but really, how is this going to happen? If you are in torpor with zero blood, there are very few actions you can take that you can play Daring the Dawn--you can be, uh, Rapidly Healing yourself or, uh, Regenerating, and in either case, the 1 point of aggrivated damage isn't going to burn you, as Daring the Dawn is likely to make your action succeed (as that is what Daring the Dawn does), and then the action resolves (you get ot of torpor or gain a bunch of blood) and then you take a point of aggrivated damage and suffer the effects (go back to torpor or burn a point of blood). I'm sure there is some really obscure situation where a vampire in torpor with zero blood takes an action, plays Daring the Dawn to not get blocked, and yet still stays in torpor with zero blood, at which point the aggro damage from the Daring the Dawn burns you. But I can't think of what such a situation is. -Peter

[ quoted text not captured ] If the vampire in torpor has Ex Nihilo, it gets easier: then he can foolishly attempt Regeneration with Daring the Dawn. Action succeeds, he gains no blood, and poof. Or a ready minion takes an action to enter combat and uses Daring the Dawn (as well as other action modifiers to expend his remaining blood, or perhaps the action itself cost blood due to some Gehenna event or Changelin Ward or whatever). So he's empty when he enters combat (thinking he'll steal a bunch of blood or prevent and taste or whatever), but instead someone plays Legacy of Power to send him to torpor. Then he'd be empty in torpor when DtD's damage cam e calling.

On Oct 26, 9:49 am, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > Then he'd be empty in torpor when DtD's damage came calling Heh. Both reasonable (and fairly obscure) examples. So the lesson of the day is: "Don't use Daring the Dawn to make sure you don't get blocked while Bum's Rushing someone..." -Peter

Peter D Bakija wrote: > On Oct 26, 9:49 am, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > > Then he'd be empty in torpor when DtD's damage came calling > > Heh. Both reasonable (and fairly obscure) examples. So the lesson of > the day is: Or Daring the Dawn almost any action from within torpor, only to be blocked by Carlton Van Wyck or some other ally. > -Peter -John Flournoy

On Oct 26, 10:55 am, "John Flournoy" <carne...@gmail.com> wrote: >Or Daring the Dawn almost any action from within torpor, only to be > blocked by Carlton Van Wyck or some other ally. While certainly possible, if you are taking an action from torpor, and Carlton Van Wyck can block you, why are you playing Daring the Dawn in the first place? There are ways to can go out of your way to burn yourself with Daring the Dawn in torpor, but unless it is a fairly obscure situaiton, it is unlikely to come up much. -Peter

"Peter D Bakija" <pd...@lightlink.com> wrote in news:1161869281.3...@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > I'm sure there is some really obscure situation where a vampire in > torpor with zero blood takes an action, plays Daring the Dawn to not > get blocked, and yet still stays in torpor with zero blood, at which > point the aggro damage from the Daring the Dawn burns you. But I can't > think of what such a situation is. > Inferior Movement of the Slow Body, plus DtD. DaveZ Atom Weaver

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, Peter D Bakija wrote: > > > On Oct 26, 10:55 am, "John Flournoy" <carne...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Or Daring the Dawn almost any action from within torpor, only to be >> blocked by Carlton Van Wyck or some other ally. > > While certainly possible, if you are taking an action from torpor, and > Carlton Van Wyck can block you, why are you playing Daring the Dawn in > the first place? Because he was tapped and you didn't count on him being On the Qui Vive. Matt Morgan