Retainers & Damage Prevention Q

In article <4hk3l3$j...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, schw...@math.uiuc.edu (Gary Schwartz) wrote: >The section on Retainers & Combat starts on page 43 of the new rulebook. >At the top of page 44, in a little grey box, it says, "Once the retainer >has been chosen as the victim, the damage cannot be circumvented with dodge >cards or any other intervention (other than damage prevention cards)." > >I have a question about that last bit. Can a vampire, using fortitude (or >Sideslip), prevent damage to a retainer? Can a retainer use a flak jacket? > >BTW, I noticed that they changed the Resplendent Protector to only prevent >damage to the employing vampire. > >Gary Schwartz The only possible explaination that I can think of is that a ghoul retainer might beable to be given a flak Jacket (You can give them anything else). Ben

GEN...@leeds.ac.uk (B.D. Redmond) writes: >>I have a question about that last bit. Can a vampire, >using fortitude (or >>Sideslip), prevent damage to a retainer? Can a retainer >use a flak jacket? >> >The only possible explaination that I can think of is >that a ghoul retainer might beable to be given a flak >Jacket (You can give them anything else). Ghoul Retainers cannot be given anything, just like any other retainer. Their special ability allows them to "use" a weapon that their employer isn't using, but the employer is still the bearer of that weapon, not the Ghoul Retainer (important in the case of a Zip Gun or a Bomb). They certainly cannot extend their special ability to "using" a flack Jacket, since the special ability only refers to weapons, not generic equipment. They also could not maneuver with a gun that they were planning on using later in the round. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | All generalizations are false. http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |

In article <4i18m7$2...@redwood.cs.sc.edu>, sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu (L. Scott Johnson) writes: > GEN...@leeds.ac.uk (B.D. Redmond) writes: > >>I have a question about that last bit. Can a vampire, > >using fortitude (or > >>Sideslip), prevent damage to a retainer? Can a retainer > >use a flak jacket? > >> > >The only possible explaination that I can think of is > >that a ghoul retainer might beable to be given a flak > >Jacket (You can give them anything else). > > Ghoul Retainers cannot be given anything, just like any > other retainer. Their special ability allows them to > "use" a weapon that their employer isn't using, but > the employer is still the bearer of that weapon, not > the Ghoul Retainer (important in the case of a Zip > Gun or a Bomb). They certainly cannot extend their special > ability to "using" a flack Jacket, since the special > ability only refers to weapons, not generic equipment. > > They also could not maneuver with a gun that they were > planning on using later in the round. But what if they "use" Talbot's Chainsaw? That is most certainly a weapon, but it also prevents 1 damage per combat. It seems to me that said retainer could, in fact, prevent 1 damage in this way. > -- > L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | All generalizations are false. > http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | > Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. | Ritaxis -- "Every message you leave on this answering machine, teaches YOU shaolin kung fu."