Oot questions

Consoli Luca <con...@c220.unimo.it> writes: >1) If I understand the new V:TES rules correctly, if you play a OoT you do >_not_ >use your master phase but just one of the actions of it. Which means that you >can still use blood dolls for instance ot that if you have Anson in play or >Rumors of Gehenna you still can play one master during your master phase. >Well, if this is the case, I think it makes OoT cards too powerful; Matter of opinion. OoT Masters are still crippled (IMHO) by not being able to be played on one's own turn. >2) Situation: someone bleeds me succesfully and when I am going to Deflect the >bleed, someone else plays Major Boon and takes the bleed. The point is: who >goes first, the Major Boon or the Deflection? It makes quite a bit of >difference... :) No difference. Major Boon does not redirect the bleed. The same Methuselah being bled before MB is played is still being Bled after MB is played. MB simply allows another Methuselah to *pay* for that bleed, in exchange for a return of that favor later. If you can play Deflection after MB, the MB'er will still pay for the bleed (now taken by a new Methuselah, who now owes the MB'er a favor). (You may not be able to play the deflection after a MB, depending on how the RT rules on what "modifiers to the bleed" are). -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | These opinions are mine and http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | are subject to card text. Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |

Before I could do anything to stop it, Consoli Luca wrote: > 2) Situation: someone bleeds me succesfully and when I am going to Deflect the > bleed, someone else plays Major Boon and takes the bleed. The point is: who > goes first, the Major Boon or the Deflection? It makes quite a bit of > difference... :) If you play Deflection, then the Methuselah has not successfully bled you (although he/she may successfully bleed another Methuselah). Major Boon should not be played until you have acknowledged that the bleed succeeded without being blocked or redirected. -- "It's at the end of his arm," thought Frito, nervously | Brian shaking it, "it's got to be a hand." | Wilson

I would like to ask a couple of questions about Oot cards: 1) If I understand the new V:TES rules correctly, if you play a OoT you do _not_ use your master phase but just one of the actions of it. Which means that you can still use blood dolls for instance ot that if you have Anson in play or Rumors of Gehenna you still can play one master during your master phase. Well, if this is the case, I think it makes OoT cards too powerful; 2) Situation: someone bleeds me succesfully and when I am going to Deflect the bleed, someone else plays Major Boon and takes the bleed. The point is: who goes first, the Major Boon or the Deflection? It makes quite a bit of difference... :) -- Luca "Democritus" Consoli Web page: http://imoax1.unimo.it/~consoli/ |-------------------------------------------| |" S'i fossi foco arderei lo mondo..." | |{ Were I Fire, I would burn the world..." |------------| | (Cecco Angiolieri, Italian poet)| |--------------------------------------------------------|

Before I could do anything to stop it, Thomas R Wylie wrote: > Even if this true, which it isn't, you can still Deflect a bleed after it's > been established that it won't be blocked, so it wouldn't stop the > two cards from interacting. Perhaps you misunderstood me. If you attempt to bleed me and I don't block because I'm going to deflect, then some other joker decides to Major Boon the bleed, I should be able to make him pick up his MB until after I've played my Deflection. The MB jumped the gun... the bleed was not fully resolved. He's more than welcome to play his MB on the deflected player, though. [ quoted text not captured ]