Bleeding with action cards...

Hello, Can I use (D) action cards that bleed (i.e. Govern the Unaligned, Computer Hacking) against a Methuselah other than my prey? (the cards do not tell otherwise and after all it's a (D) action). Thanks in advance, -- (Fantasy Library) http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/1341/amazon --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- ---Share what you know. Learn what you don't.---

In article <7ifdc9$nbc$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, Ivan Lerth <ile...@my-dejanews.com> wrote: > Hello, > > Can I use (D) action cards that bleed (i.e. Govern the Unaligned, > Computer Hacking) against a Methuselah other than my prey? (the cards > do not tell otherwise and after all it's a (D) action). The (D) symbol is reminder text. You may only bleed your prey unless the card says specifically who it can target. For further confirmation see the 7/7 Rules Team Rulings quoted below: Directed actions are actions that directly affect another Methuselah, one of her minions, or a card a Methuselah controls. Cards that involve directed actions have a "(D)" in the card text. Nondirected actions are actions that are not directed against a Methuselah or one of her minions. Hunting, equipping a minion, recruiting an ally, and employing a retainer are examples of nondirected actions. # # Yeah, I know - this is a direct quote from the VTES rulebook. But it # does change the way the (D) symbol currently works [back to the # correct way] by removing the long-standing errata. Specifically, the # "(D)" symbol merely identifies (redundantly) a directed action. The # symbol does *not* address who the action can be directed at - the # rest of the text on the card should make that clear. Some errata is # introduced for expansion cards that are dependent on the errata - # but these cards have caused confusion anyway. The card-specific # errata for (D) actions is limited to the expansion cards, and # then only when necessary. For the full text of these and other recent Rules Team Rulings, please see http://members.tripod.com/~Lasombra Carpe noctem. Lasombra http://members.tripod.com/~Lasombra [ quoted text not captured ]

Ivan Lerth <ile...@my-dejanews.com> wrote: > Can I use (D) action cards that bleed (i.e. Govern the > Unaligned, Computer Hacking) against a Methuselah other > than my prey? (the cards do not tell otherwise and after > all it's a (D) action). From the revised rulebook (linked in my .sig below): 6.1.6. Action Card Unless otherwise noted on the card, these actions are at zero stealth (see Stealth and Intercept, sec. 6.2.2) and can be attempted by both vampires and allies. If the action card describes a special version of a basic action, then all the rules that apply to the basic action apply to the action card, except as otherwise noted on the action card. Example: If Lupo plays Computer Hacking (text: "Action. Bleed at +1"), then all the normal rules of bleed actions (only being able to target your prey, for example) apply, except that the bleed amount is increased by one. -- LSJ (vte...@wizards.com) VTES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and DCI (tournament) rules: http://www.wizards.com/VTES/VTES_Rules.html [ quoted text not captured ]