rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Q: Change of Target

6 messages from 6 participants · 06 December 1994 – 18 December 1994
original thread on Google Groups

Frank Alejano

OK, folks, here's a question: Does cancelling an action (as Change of Target does) mean you bring any action cards you played back into your hand. Example: I declare that black cat is arming the ivory bow. My opponent plays cat's guidance using a Vamp with Superior animalism (+1 int) and attempts to block. I play cloak the gathering from one of my Nosferatu to give Black cat an additional +1 stealth. My opponent then plays another cat's guidance, once again giving him the block. I then play change of target. Which cards (if any) do I get back? Thanks, Frank

Joshua Bluestein

[ quoted text not captured ] Small problem here: your opponent could not use two Cat's Guidance cards in the same attempt to intercept. But that's largely irrelevant to the question at hand. >>Which cards (if any) do I get back? A toughie. My *guess* would be that the Cloak the Gathering and Cat's Guidance's are burned, but the Ivory Bow would return to your hand. Why? Change of Target only gets played after an action gets blocked. Once it's played, the action is treated as if it hadn't taken place, but the block would still, IMHO, have to have occurred legitimately in order to be able to play the Change of Target. Also, of course, the CtG and CW cards have already been replaced. Probably the easiest to deal with would be to have *all* the cards be burned, including the Bow. That would be kinda depressing, though. Josh Bluestein wa...@ftp.com

Joe Cochran

In article <3c1ur3$g...@larry.rice.edu>, [ quoted text not captured ] I'm not sure about the answer to your main question, but I believe that all of the cards are burned. However, in your example, Black Cat will successfully equip. Your opponent cannot play a second Cat's Guidance on the same minion for the same action. You can only use a particular type of reaction card once per action. The second intercept would have to come from somewhere else. | If you've got a hot lead on a new | *--Joe--* | PC game, call the announce line at | js...@vt.edu | ** csi...@discus.ise.vt.edu ** | +-------------------------------------+---------------------------------- "Carnivores, oy!" -- Timon, TLK

Tom Wylie

If Change of Target is used, any action modifiers and reactions used previously are still burned, and players don't get them back. What would happen with an equipment or retainer card is less clear. Note that people habitually play such that when the vampire takes an equip/recruit action, the equipment/retainer is immediately replaced, implying that it's removed from your hand when the action is declared, so you wouldn't get it back. But it occurs to me that this *might* be techincally incorrect, and the equipment/retainer is actually in hand until it's determined whether the action was blocked or not. Unlikely, but I will find out. Assuming that the equipment/retainer really is replaced immediately, that would mean it is lost if Change of Target is used. Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for aa...@hal.com Wizards of the Coast, Inc.

Rick Mc Leod

[ quoted text not captured ] Umm. Nice try. Your opponent can't use Cat's Guidance twice. Enhanced Senses or some other card would be necessary... >Which cards (if any) do I get back? > Only the Ivory Bow (the way we use it), but such must be deferred to TW. !-----------------------------------------------------------------------------! Rick Mc Leod - Systems Wizard, Court Jester, Guardian of the Galaxy Environment MDA P/L PO Box 1692 N Sydney NSW 2058 Australia (02) 956-7966 r...@mda.com.au/NIC:RM25/There can be only one...fortunately.

Alex Robinson

In article <3c1ur3$g...@larry.rice.edu>, fra...@owlnet.rice.edu (Frank Alejano) wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] I'm sorry I don't answer your important question about change of target (because I'm not sure), but you might like to know that only one of reaction card can be played by a minion during one action, i.e., he could not have played two cat's guidances. My guess with change of target it that you get your bow back, but that is all. You would replace change of target with the bow card. The same would work for votes and other action cards. -al