KoT: 1 week til release, and still no Preview... :-(

Subject says it all. I like previews, personally. best - chris -- Super Fun Cards www.superfuncards.com *NEW Website!* auct...@superfuncards.com

On Nov 12, 12:28 pm, librarian <aucti...@superfuncards.com> wrote: > Subject says it all. I like previews, personally. > > best - > > chris > -- > Super Fun Cardswww.superfuncards.com*NEW Website!* > aucti...@superfuncards.com I agree. Leaks and sneak peeks are good, but WW info is best, methinks. Brandon

On Nov 12, 9:28 pm, librarian <aucti...@superfuncards.com> wrote: > Subject says it all. I like previews, personally. > > best - > > chris > -- > Super Fun Cardswww.superfuncards.com*NEW Website!* > aucti...@superfuncards.com Yep, seems that WW might be skipping previews since there are so many spoilers floating around. Seems they forget that a lot of players don't read the newsgroup or the blogs. They just check the WW website which is pretty dead when it comes to KoT info, or spoilers regarding the new promos (no promo updates since the cloak of abalone). Personally I like to see the art of some preview cards (official spoilers), I like to see the expansion symbol and I really want to see the complete list of reprints. Hopefully they'll add something very soon. //Alex

On Nov 12, 4:39 pm, a...@student.chalmers.se wrote: > Personally I like to see the art of some preview cards (official > spoilers), I like to see the expansion symbol and I really want to see > the complete list of reprints. Ad given that the "word on the street" is that the reprinted rulebook in the KoT starters is unintentionally the LotN content, rather than having the "Rules Changes" that LSJ has reportedly said there are... I'd like to get a sense for what the intended rules changes are. (Probably mostly little things such as Inner Circle being a clan-based title. But still.) - D.J.

[ quoted text not captured ] My guess, considering the cards we've seen so far, is that it would introduce "Transient" as a keyword on events, which I assume means it can be played more than once per game; as well as defining Blood Hunt as a referendum type apart from just being part of a diablerie. I.C. as a clan-based title seems likely as well. Also first-strike now beats dodge and S:CE... ;) Okay, maybe not that.

a...@student.chalmers.se wrote: > Personally I like to see the art of some preview cards (official > spoilers), I like to see the expansion symbol and I really want to see > the complete list of reprints. I bet the expansion symbol is the chess-piece "rook" that is on this page: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=news&articleid=1026 It's funny how the KoT banner at the top of the news section on the VTES page directs you to buying a box of Lords of the Night... /rumor alert/ Could it be that the poor promotion of this game is a harbinger of one of the following: 1) CCP phasing out game 2) LSJ moving on ? /end rumor alert/ Most likely I think it's because Oscar used to do this stuff, but now he has been promoted and has a lot more duties, but they haven't replaced him with someone to focus on this now. best - chris -- [ quoted text not captured ]

On Nov 13, 1:38 am, librarian <aucti...@superfuncards.com> wrote: > a...@student.chalmers.se wrote: > > Personally I like to see the art of some preview cards (official > > spoilers), I like to see the expansion symbol and I really want to see > > the complete list of reprints. > > I bet the expansion symbol is the chess-piece "rook" that is on this page: > > http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=news&articleid=1026 > Yeah, but I'm hoping it's not :) And if it is I want to see it on a card to establish how ugly it really is. > It's funny how the KoT banner at the top of the news section on the VTES > page directs you to buying a box of Lords of the Night... > > /rumor alert/ > Could it be that the poor promotion of this game is a harbinger of one > of the following: > 1) CCP phasing out game > 2) LSJ moving on > ? > /end rumor alert/ > Is this something you made up just now, or an actual rumor you've heard. I'm hoping on the former. Anyway, to me the most likely reason for no official previews would be that about half the set has been spoiled through different channels anyway. IIRC the TR preview was just a 1 day event where you found 3 cards and the complete setlist online all of a sudden. > Most likely I think it's because Oscar used to do this stuff, but now he > has been promoted and has a lot more duties, but they haven't replaced > him with someone to focus on this now. > I thought it was Scott who handled previews etc. Doesnät matter though, I hope someone puts something on the WW website soon. Didn't know Oscar got promoted either, congrats to Oscar I guess. //Alex

a...@student.chalmers.se wrote: > On Nov 13, 1:38�am, librarian <aucti...@superfuncards.com> wrote: > > I bet the expansion symbol is the chess-piece "rook" that is on this page: > > > > http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=news&articleid=1026 > > > > Yeah, but I'm hoping it's not :) > And if it is I want to see it on a card to establish how ugly it > really is. That's the symbol. Having seen it on cards brought back from the NAC, at the size they get printed, it's not too bad, IMO. (A little awkward on the Crypt cards, as it's bigger, but not atrocious.) - D.J.

[ quoted text not captured ] White Wolf brought this onto themselves by releasing the set to a "limited" set of players at the NAC. Almost all the cards are at extrala and here goes some pics. Apearently White Wolf wants us to do our own previews. Thanks to the people who put this online. SPOIL ALERT http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/9630/ventruezq6.jpg http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7151/toreadorls6.jpg http://picasaweb.google.hu/f.vasadi5/VtES# Excelent art! I Like the symbol. Well done White Wolf. Tiago Brum

I guess the correct meaning of the symbol is not the rook but the "Ivory Tower" which is what the Camarilla believes to be... Have a look to the Fall of the Camarilla artwork to get a confirmation... ;-) Nicolas, French prince of Oye Plage

> Apearently White Wolf wants us to do our own previews. Thanks to the > people who put this online. > > SPOIL ALERT > > http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/9630/ventruezq6.jpg > > http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7151/toreadorls6.jpg > > http://picasaweb.google.hu/f.vasadi5/VtES# > > Excelent art! I Like the symbol. Well done White Wolf. All very nice, but absolutely useless for a new player who won't be looking here. It should be on White Wolfs homepage, it should be advertised, it should be being promoted. Sam

[ quoted text not captured ] I bet there will be some discussion on this, after KoT is released. Emiliano, Nc Italy www.italybynight.org

> SPOIL ALERT > > http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/9630/ventruezq6.jpg > > http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7151/toreadorls6.jpg > > http://picasaweb.google.hu/f.vasadi5/VtES# > > Excelent art! I Like the symbol. Well done White Wolf. > I personally think the new art work for Psych! really blows, otherwise I agree.

On Nov 13, 4:47 am, Brum <tiago.br...@gmail.com> wrote: > Apearently White Wolf wants us to do our own previews. Thanks to the > people who put this online. > > SPOIL ALERT > > http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/9630/ventruezq6.jpg > > http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7151/toreadorls6.jpg > > http://picasaweb.google.hu/f.vasadi5/VtES# > > Excelent art! I Like the symbol. Well done White Wolf. What I like is that they've finally changed to listing capacity ranges by giving the first value of the block. I've always thought that made more sense than their previous practice of avoiding the "equals" case by going to the first value over the line. Finally, I won't have to mentally convert things like "capacity above three" into "capacity of four or greater" (well, except for old printings and old cards... but it has to start somewhere and I'm very glad they're making that change). Brent Ross

[ quoted text not captured ] Going to Ebay and searching VTES Keepers of Tradtion will provide TONS of spoilers.

On Nov 13, 4:39 pm, Rhavas <Anthony.Lun...@gmail.com> wrote: > Going to Ebay and searching VTES Keepers of Tradtion will provide TONS > of spoilers. Yeah, I had a search set up to email me if cards from the set came up there and was looking around it today. I believe I've seen all the new cards now (52 library (as reported by The Lasombra) and 124 crypt). One thing I noticed was that there was no Nosferatu clan toy in the set (the other six clans each got one card). Each discipline (of the 11 appropriate ones) got two cards, and there was one dual (Charismatic Aura giving aus and pre a third card). Brent Ross

[ quoted text not captured ] I believe I saw a Nos master card at NAC. Can't recall what it does, though.

[ quoted text not captured ] i belive there is 60 new cards in the set. i cant recall where i heard this, but ...

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:25:26 -0800 (PST), AcheronNightStalker wrote: >i belive there is 60 new cards in the set. i cant recall where i heard >this, but ... Your belief is wrong. As is the advertising. New rares - 16 Arcane Appraiser Enkil Cog Ephor Monastery of Shadows New Carthage Nocturn Theater Ponticulus Scourge of the Enochians Soul Scan Tainted Spring Target Retainer Touch of Clarity Veles' Hunt Waiting Game Warsaw Station White Nights Massacre New uncommons - 19 Becoming, The Blood of Sandman Charismatic Aura Childling Muse Coterie Tactics Dark Influences Dark Mirror of the Mind Heroic Might Kevlar Vest Leech Light Intensifying Goggles Old Friends Papillon Perfect Paragon Persona Non Grata Repair the Undead Flesh Scourge Still the Mortal Flesh Villein New commons - 17 Agate Talisman Ashur Tablets Deep Song Eyes of Argus Eyes of the Beast Fleetness Force of Personality Horseshoes Loki's Gift Mouthpiece Neonate Breach No Trace Oath, The Rego Motus Steadfastness Torrent Wrong and Crosswise

On Nov 12, 4:38 pm, librarian <aucti...@superfuncards.com> wrote: > a...@student.chalmers.se wrote: > > Personally I like to see the art of some preview cards (official > > spoilers), I like to see the expansion symbol and I really want to see > > the complete list of reprints. > > I bet the expansion symbol is the chess-piece "rook" that is on this page: > > http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=news&articleid=1026 > > It's funny how the KoT banner at the top of the news section on the VTES > page directs you to buying a box of Lords of the Night... > > /rumor alert/ > Could it be that the poor promotion of this game is a harbinger of one > of the following: > 1) CCP phasing out game > 2) LSJ moving on > ? > /end rumor alert/ None likely. Can you really say that there's been a massive drop-off of support with this release? For one reason or another things are always kind of sketchy. > Most likely I think it's because Oscar used to do this stuff, but now he > has been promoted and has a lot more duties, but they haven't replaced > him with someone to focus on this now. If I recall my experience with WW web updates in the past, there was usually an issue with website changes getting sent to the website person and then having to wait for the work to move to the top of his or her todo list. Lots of waiting involved...and gnashing of teeth, of course. -Robert

On Nov 13, 10:39 pm, Rhavas <Anthony.Lun...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Going to Ebay and searching VTES Keepers of Tradtion will provide TONS > of spoilers. Hi, could you please be so kind and tell me how you did that? I searched ebay.com for "(v:tes, vtes, jyhad) keepers" and got exactly 4 matches. Playing around with key words did not increase the number. There seem to be no listings that have already ended. Kind regards, Marcus

In message <50e25b46-b623-4acf...@l33g2000pri.googlegroup s.com>, marcu...@gmail.com writes: >On Nov 13, 10:39 pm, Rhavas <Anthony.Lun...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Going to Ebay and searching VTES Keepers of Tradtion will provide TONS >> of spoilers. > >could you please be so kind and tell me how you did that? > >I searched ebay.com for "(v:tes, vtes, jyhad) keepers" and got exactly >4 matches. Playing around with key words did not increase the number. >There seem to be no listings that have already ended. Your headers suggest you're in Europe. If your Ebay settings are set to only Europe (or only your country), you may have trouble. For me, I shove in "Keepers of Tradition" (no quotes) and it tells me that there aren't any hits locally, but international sellers have them. When I then tick Location: Worldwide, I get a crap-load of hits. -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D YOU ARE IN ERROR. EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 NO-ONE IS SCREAMING. 13D7E668C3695D623D5D THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION.

On 14 Nov., 10:17, James Coupe <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote: > In message <50e25b46-b623-4acf-b3c5-318fcb997...@l33g2000pri.googlegroup > > s.com>, marcus.m...@gmail.com writes: > >On Nov 13, 10:39 pm, Rhavas <Anthony.Lun...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Going to Ebay and searching VTES Keepers of Tradtion will provide TONS > >> of spoilers. > > >could you please be so kind and tell me how you did that? > > >I searched ebay.com for "(v:tes, vtes, jyhad) keepers" and got exactly > >4 matches. Playing around with key words did not increase the number. > >There seem to be no listings that have already ended. > > Your headers suggest you're in Europe. If your Ebay settings are set to > only Europe (or only your country), you may have trouble. > > For me, I shove in "Keepers of Tradition" (no quotes) and it tells me > that there aren't any hits locally, but international sellers have them. > When I then tick Location: Worldwide, I get a crap-load of hits. This is strange. Just did as you described, and I get only 2 items. (Both being whole boxes.) What do I do wrong?

[ quoted text not captured ] Keep it simple. Search for "VTES Keepers of Tradtion" And you get about 210 hits... :) Simplicity, it's understated....

On Nov 14, 10:17 am, James Coupe <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote: > In message <50e25b46-b623-4acf-b3c5-318fcb997...@l33g2000pri.googlegroup > > Your headers suggest you're in Europe. If your Ebay settings are set to > only Europe (or only your country), you may have trouble. > > For me, I shove in "Keepers of Tradition" (no quotes) and it tells me > that there aren't any hits locally, but international sellers have them. > When I then tick Location: Worldwide, I get a crap-load of hits. > > -- > James Coupe > PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D YOU ARE IN ERROR. > EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 NO-ONE IS SCREAMING. > 13D7E668C3695D623D5D THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION. Thanks for the hints. I rechecked all the settings but I didn't get more hits. So I guess it must be the other way round, the listings are restricted to buyers from certain countries. Kind regards, Marcus

On Nov 14, 11:54 am, marcus.m...@gmail.com wrote: > I rechecked all the settings but I didn't get more hits. So I guess it > must be the other way round, the listings are restricted to buyers > from certain countries. Try this link (it includes the "proper" search; on ebay.com (as James stated) and in the shops): http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_nkwZQ22KeepersQ20ofQ20TraditionQ22QQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZR40QQ_mdoZ Regards, Ralf =========================== http://extrala.blogspot.com

On Nov 14, 10:17 am, James Coupe <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote: > In message <50e25b46-b623-4acf-b3c5-318fcb997...@l33g2000pri.googlegroup > > Your headers suggest you're in Europe. If your Ebay settings are set to > only Europe (or only your country), you may have trouble. > > For me, I shove in "Keepers of Tradition" (no quotes) and it tells me > that there aren't any hits locally, but international sellers have them. > When I then tick Location: Worldwide, I get a crap-load of hits. > > -- > James Coupe > PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D YOU ARE IN ERROR. > EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 NO-ONE IS SCREAMING. > 13D7E668C3695D623D5D THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION. Thanks for the hints. I rechecked all the settings but I didn't get more hits. So I guess it must be the other way round, the listings are restricted to buyers from certain countries. Kind regards, Marcus

[ quoted text not captured ] Strange as i am in Czech republic, and get mucho hits. Just dont log in to ebay, do the search making sure you are on ebay.com, not some affiliate/local version

On Nov 13, 8:21 pm, Manfromleng <manfroml...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On Nov 13, 4:58 pm, bwross <bwr...@mail.com> wrote: > > One thing I noticed was that there was no Nosferatu clan toy > > in the set (the other six clans each got one card). > > I believe I saw a Nos master card at NAC. Can't recall what it does, > though. Having seen the list now, I realize that I still haven't seen at least one card... Warsaw Station, which would definately make sense as a Nosferatu card. Brent Ross

marcu...@gmail.com wrote: > On Nov 14, 10:17 am, James Coupe <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote: ... >> For me, I shove in "Keepers of Tradition" (no quotes) and it tells me >> that there aren't any hits locally, but international sellers have them. >> When I then tick Location: Worldwide, I get a crap-load of hits. ... > Thanks for the hints. > > I rechecked all the settings but I didn't get more hits. So I guess it > must be the other way round, the listings are restricted to buyers > from certain countries. I'm in Australia. I went to ebay.com (NOT ebay.com.au, which is the australian branch). I was NOT logged in to ebay. I typed, as james said, "Keepers of Tradition" (without the quotes), and got 216 results. -- salem (replace 'hotmail' with 'gmail' to email) "In *my* Assamite deck, this would pwn you in teh FAEC, so shut up." "Thats only cos u've never sene mi Gionavvi PUNCHnMUCNH u asshat." - James Coupe

WOW!! I just can't get over how suave and handsome that Jackson Asher is. A real man of mistery! I like to call him "inferior Action Jackson!" :) ***JediMike*** > > SPOIL ALERT > > http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/9630/ventruezq6.jpg

***JediMike*** wrote: > WOW!! > > I just can't get over how suave and handsome that Jackson Asher is. A > real man of mistery! I like to call him "inferior Action Jackson!" A man of mystery or of misery?

[ quoted text not captured ] Am I the only one thinking that LSJ is funnier when he says "correct" than when he cracks a joke ? ;) -- Orpheus -- "Cynicism isn't maturity. Callousness isn't strength. Pretending you don't care so you don't have to try isn't "winning" What you do with your life matters." Luther Manning.

> A man of mystery or of misery? Yes! It's a wonderful / miserable un-life! Everyone knows the undead can't spell! ;) ***Inferior Action Jackson***