Off the WW site;
"Crypts must be built using only vampires from a single group or using
only vampires from two consecutive groups."
So suddenly Arika can be in any ventrue deck, but Democritus can't.
Weird. I understand the reasoning, but not sure if I like the
implementation.
T
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 Tal...@nodamspamhotmail.com wrote:
> So suddenly Arika can be in any ventrue deck, but Democritus can't.
> Weird. I understand the reasoning, but not sure if I like the
> implementation.
You know, that's a good point. Dark Sovereigns was Prince heaven. All
those Princes will still be mixable with the new vampires. The Eurojah
stand a good chance at getting better.
David Cherryholmes
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> > So suddenly Arika can be in any ventrue deck, but Democritus can't.
> > Weird. I understand the reasoning, but not sure if I like the
> > implementation.
Arika is Inner Circle, Democritus is Justicar and Justicars change with
time, that is all the explanation I need (yes, I love the fact that the card
game can follow the WoD thread).
> You know, that's a good point. Dark Sovereigns was Prince heaven. All
> those Princes will still be mixable with the new vampires. The Eurojah
> stand a good chance at getting better.
Ds also contained lots of shitty vampires, but it's fortunate that the
interesting ones still can be played.
I think the purposes of this new rule are the followings :
- follow the background evolution in the RPG / novels and not have two
different Justicars of each clan combinable ; I like that.
- not offer too many possibilities for Camarilla compared to the others ;
that is GOOD !!! I was very afraid, looking at all the good Camarilla cards,
and thinking : "My, they already kick the Sabbat's ass - not to mention
independants -, if they boost them more we'll never play anything but Cam
!!". Obviously, WW realised that and remedied it, and that is a very good
thing as far as I'm concerned.
- Not offer the possibility for redundance (vampires with identical or very
near caracs or possibilities, but different names, for whatever reason, like
Christofero Giovanni and his recent counterpart for example).
So, what I'm saying is : I actually APPROVE this 1/2/3 rule, as long as we
can still mix Cam with S and SW+.
Only thing I don't approve is having to mix cards with totally different
looks, but that's another problem...
Yours from the darkest places,
Orpheus
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Which makes me think...what about Dan Murdock and Mariana Gilbert? I assume
that they are also #1s? or are they #2s?
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Aaron
The Nosferatu Stuff
On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 04:43:09 +0200, "Orpheus" <orph...@wanadoo.fr>
wrote:
>> > So suddenly Arika can be in any ventrue deck, but Democritus can't.
>> > Weird. I understand the reasoning, but not sure if I like the
>> > implementation.>
>Arika is Inner Circle, Democritus is Justicar and Justicars change with
>time, that is all the explanation I need (yes, I love the fact that the card
>game can follow the WoD thread).
>
IC members never change?
How about all the European Princes and Primogen. Those aren't going
to change either?
T
The Nosferatu Stuff wrote:
> Which makes me think...what about Dan Murdock and Mariana Gilbert? I assume
> that they are also #1s? or are they #2s?
Vampires with no group number have there group number determined by the
existence (or lack thereof) of a set symbol. A vampire with no group number
and no set symbol is group 1. A vampire with no group number but with a
set symbol is group 2.
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On Thu, 04 Jul 2002 21:56:51 GMT, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
>The Nosferatu Stuff wrote:>> Which makes me think...what about Dan Murdock and Mariana Gilbert? I assume
>> that they are also #1s? or are they #2s?>
>Vampires with no group number have there group number determined by the
>existence (or lack thereof) of a set symbol. A vampire with no group number
>and no set symbol is group 1. A vampire with no group number but with a
>set symbol is group 2.
That should be added into an FAQ someplace if it isn't clear in the
upcoming CE rulebook. Good question Aaron :-)
>LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc.
BernieTime
Lansing, Michigan
In message <3d29ad84.145160450@news>, Tal...@nodamspamhotmail.com
writes:
>>Arika is Inner Circle, Democritus is Justicar and Justicars change with
>>time, that is all the explanation I need (yes, I love the fact that the card
>>game can follow the WoD thread).>
>IC members never change?
In the RPG, the Inner Circle representative of a clan is habitually the
oldest member of a clan. Thus, without exceptional circumstances
(vampire death, ostracism, going renegade, a "new" vampire being found
in torpor or something), changing the membership of the Inner Circle can
be very difficult indeed.
This can prove very difficult for a clan, as the temporary prestige and
political ability of the individual vampire can lumber them with a
crappy Justicar.
Also, in the card game, the Inner Circle title (like the Primogen title)
does not contest. A deck that wanted to use Arika and Leandro, and clan
impersonate Arika to Malkavian in order to use Madness Network, would
not contest the Inner Circle title.
This would be easy to fix, but probably unnecessary.
--
James Coupe
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> On Thu, 04 Jul 2002 21:56:51 GMT, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
>
> >The Nosferatu Stuff wrote:
> >> Which makes me think...what about Dan Murdock and Mariana Gilbert? I
assume
> >> that they are also #1s? or are they #2s?
> >
> >Vampires with no group number have there group number determined by the
> >existence (or lack thereof) of a set symbol. A vampire with no group
number
> >and no set symbol is group 1. A vampire with no group number but with a
> >set symbol is group 2.
>
> That should be added into an FAQ someplace if it isn't clear in the
> upcoming CE rulebook. Good question Aaron :-)
I thought I remembered it being specified in the description of
the group rule on the WW site? "vampires with no expansion symbol
in the upper right corner of the card" covering Dan and Mariana.
Josh
too many marianas