Disease counter + society of leopold

What happens to a diseased vampire with 1 blood under society of leopold ? Can his controller choose the order of effects or does he have to deal with his counter first (because the untap phase starts by untapping the minions) then burn the vampire (society) because he has no blood left ? thanks all. Klav

[ quoted text not captured ] You must always untap your minions first at the start of your untap phase (right after you hand back all your Demented Malkavians, at the start of your turn). You could, of course, burn the vampire in your untap to get rid of that pesky Antedeluvian Awakening before worrying about that Society of Leopold, or get the blood from the Hunting Ground first. All that aside, yeah, you burn. -- Pat Ricochet Soul Jar'rn Fool of Atlanta

/Arnaud Clavel wrote: > > What happens to a diseased vampire with 1 blood under society of leopold > ? Assuming you mean Vampiric Disease and not Disease, the vampire victim has to do two things during the untap phase: 1) Untap (and burn a blood for being infected "when [he] untaps") This must be done first. [4] 2) Burn a blood or be burned "during the untap phase" for Leopold. > Can his controller choose the order of effects or does he have to deal > with his counter first (because the untap phase starts by untapping the > minions) then burn the vampire (society) because he has no blood left > ? The latter. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:3A0AE68F...@white-wolf.com... > /Arnaud Clavel wrote: > > > > What happens to a diseased vampire with 1 blood under society of leopold > > ? > > Assuming you mean Vampiric Disease and not Disease, the vampire victim > has to do two things during the untap phase: > > 1) Untap (and burn a blood for being infected "when [he] untaps") > > This must be done first. [4] > > 2) Burn a blood or be burned "during the untap phase" for Leopold. Let me make sure I understand correctly. Effects that occur during the untap phase can be ordered. Effects that occur when a vampire *untaps* happen first and cannot be ordered because the untapping is always the first and non-orderable thing to occur during the untap phase. So a vampire with Charnas the Imp, 1 blood, and Society of Leopold on it would burn. Right? -Robert rob...@vtesinla.org

Robert Goudie wrote: > Let me make sure I understand correctly. Effects that occur during the > untap phase can be ordered. Effects that occur when a vampire *untaps* > happen first and cannot be ordered because the untapping is always the first > and non-orderable thing to occur during the untap phase. Close enough. The effect happens when the vampire untaps, and the vampire untaps before anything else happens in the untap phase, so.... > So a vampire with > Charnas the Imp, 1 blood, and Society of Leopold on it would burn. Right? Yes, if he was tapped. [ quoted text not captured ]

Here's a nice combo. Put "Vampiric Disease" on YOUR Beast. Everyone he jumps on get the disease, for reducing the effect, put "Blood of Sabbat" on him. Bobby_Doc Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.