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Miguel Cordovera

4 messages from 4 participants · 04 December 2008 – 05 December 2008
original thread on Google Groups

niko...@hotmail.com

If I control a tapped Miguel and my predator tries to take control of him, but I play Diamond Thunderbolt, does he untap and remain under my control, or does he also remain tapped? Miguel Camarilla: During your predator`s minion phase, your predator may burn a pool to untap and take control of Miguel until the end of the minion phase. +1 bleed. DT Master: out-of-turn. Only usable when control of a vampire you control is about to change or when a vampire you control is about to enter combat. Control of that vampire does not change, and that vampire gains 1 blood.

LSJ

niko...@hotmail.com wrote: > If I control a tapped Miguel and my predator tries to take control of > him, but I play Diamond Thunderbolt, does he untap and remain under my > control, or does he also remain tapped? Untaps. Diamond Thunderbolt prevents only control from changing. The rest of the effect is applies as normal. You predator still burns a pool, and Miguel still untaps. [ quoted text not captured ]

Meej

On Dec 4, 11:44 am, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > nikol...@hotmail.com wrote: > > If I control a tapped Miguel and my predator tries to take control of > > him, but I play Diamond Thunderbolt, does he untap and remain under my > > control, or does he also remain tapped? > > Untaps. Diamond Thunderbolt prevents only control from changing. The rest of the > effect is applies as normal. You predator still burns a pool, and Miguel still > untaps. Just to confirm, because of Miguel's "During X may do Y" templating, the predator can't then burn another pool immediately to try again, correct? - D.J.

v.ripoll@gmail.com

On Dec 4, 5:56 pm, Meej <dj...@comcast.net> wrote: > On Dec 4, 11:44 am, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > > > nikol...@hotmail.com wrote: > > > If I control a tapped Miguel and my predator tries to take control of > > > him, but I play Diamond Thunderbolt, does he untap and remain under my > > > control, or does he also remain tapped? > > > Untaps. Diamond Thunderbolt prevents only control from changing. The rest of the > > effect is applies as normal. You predator still burns a pool, and Miguel still > > untaps. > > Just to confirm, because of Miguel's "During X may do Y" templating, > the predator can't then burn another pool immediately to try again, > correct? > > - D.J. Indeed.