Odd Situation, Legal Plays?

Will probably never happen again since Kahina should not be in a deck that has some anarch tech, but here's the deal: Rise of the Nephtali is in play, I control Khay'tall who is Liaison and an Anarch, Also control Kahina with one blood and self-Tempted with one counter, Minion Phase: Kahina, seeing an interesting opportunity, takes an action to become Liaison thereby forfeiting her old One Vote title and contesting with Khay'tall. She then burns the Temptation counter and untaps. For her next action she plays Go Anarch since she is now an untitled, non-anarch and untaps. She now plays Fee Stake: Boston and becomes a Baron and gives up her Liaison title to Khay'tall, who will be able to use that title again on my next untap phase. Khay'tall realizes that Kahina will probably not be able keep that title without his help and that untap phase is so far away, so he takes an action to become Liaison again and, as per this quote of LSJ's: "A single vampire cannot contest a title with himself - he'd lose the old title as soon as he gained the (second copy of the same) new title." He becomes the active Liaison and will be ready to help defend his beloved Kahina. So, is all this cool and legal? Robert Scythe

Robert Scythe <robert...@hotmail.com> wrote: > I control Khay'tall who is Liaison and an Anarch, > > Also control Kahina with one blood and self-Tempted with one counter, > > Kahina, seeing an interesting opportunity, takes an action to become > Liaison thereby forfeiting her old One Vote title and contesting with > Khay'tall. She then burns the Temptation counter and untaps. For her Both are controlled by you. You cannot contest with yourself AFAIK So IMHO Kahina never gets the title, as per the 'burn the incoming copy' ruling. Let's see what others think :) //Doc.

Robert Scythe wrote: > So, is all this cool and legal? Seems legit, assuming Kahina and Khay'tall are the same age (I can't remember off the top of my head). Otherwise, Rise card text would cause one or the other to immediately yield the title. In response to the Doctor's post: You're not allowed to contest cards with yourself. You may contest titles with yourself. --Colin McGuigan

> Both are controlled by you. You cannot contest with yourself AFAIK > So IMHO Kahina never gets the title, as per the 'burn the incoming copy' > ruling. You're allowed to contest titles with yourself.

Colin McGuigan <magu...@BGONEspeakeasy.net> wrote in message news:<_6ednetjwfE...@speakeasy.net>... > Robert Scythe wrote: > > So, is all this cool and legal? > > Seems legit, assuming Kahina and Khay'tall are the same age (I can't > remember off the top of my head). Otherwise, Rise card text would cause > one or the other to immediately yield the title. Yeah, both are 9 caps. To continue with this train of thought: Can an Anarch with a title that is not strictly an "Anarch Title", such as the Liaison title, use all of his votes to defend a Fee Stake Baron title? Robert Scythe

Robert Scythe wrote: > To continue with this train of thought: Can an Anarch with a title > that is not strictly an "Anarch Title", such as the Liaison title, use > all of his votes to defend a Fee Stake Baron title? I would think not, because Liaison isn't an anarch title, as stated. --Colin McGuigan

"Robert Scythe" <robert...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:66e41881.04081...@posting.google.com... > Will probably never happen again since Kahina should not be in a deck > that has some anarch tech, but here's the deal: > > Rise of the Nephtali is in play, > > I control Khay'tall who is Liaison and an Anarch, OK: 9 Cap. Indy. Anarch. Liaison. > Also control Kahina with one blood and self-Tempted with one counter, OK: 9 Cap. Indy. "I have 1 vote" title. > Minion Phase: > > Kahina, seeing an interesting opportunity, takes an action to become > Liaison thereby forfeiting her old One Vote title and contesting with > Khay'tall. She then burns the Temptation counter and untaps. For her OK: Kahina: 9 Cap. Indy. (Liaison contested.) Khay'tall: 9 Cap. Indy. Anarch. (Liaison contested.) > next action she plays Go Anarch since she is now an untitled, OK: Kahina: 9 Cap. Indy. Anarch. (Liaison contested.) Khay'tall: 9 Cap. Indy. Anarch. (Liaison contested.) > non-anarch and untaps. She now plays Fee Stake: Boston and becomes a > Baron and gives up her Liaison title to Khay'tall, who will be able to > use that title again on my next untap phase. Khay'tall realizes that OK: Kahina: 9 Cap. Indy. Anarch. Baron of Boston. Khay'tall: 9 Cap. Indy. Anarch. (Liaison contested.) > Kahina will probably not be able keep that title without his help and > that untap phase is so far away, so he takes an action to become > Liaison again and, as per this quote of LSJ's: OK: Kahina: 9 Cap. Indy. Anarch. Baron of Boston. Khay'tall: 9 Cap. Indy. Anarch. Liaison. > "A single vampire cannot contest a title with himself - he'd lose > the old title as soon as he gained the (second copy of the same) new > title." > > He becomes the active Liaison and will be ready to help defend his > beloved Kahina. > > So, is all this cool and legal? Yes. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. V:TES homepage: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Though effective, appear to be ineffective -- Sun Tzu

Colin McGuigan <magu...@BGONEspeakeasy.net> wrote in message news:<_6ednetjwfE...@speakeasy.net>... [ quoted text not captured ] More specefically, vampires contest titles, you (player) only contest cards. G